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  • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
    Manny listed drugs like lidocaine and prp treatment (controversial because its a method for blood doping) on his prefight form to treat an undisclosed injury that they have been proven to have lied about.
    Top rank is on record lying about when, how, why and now the recovery process for Manny's injury.

    And this doesn't raise an eyebrow.

    No consitency from pact@rds. Especially since they scream "Floyd uses lidocaine and does vampire facials."
    Manny's doctor said that they do PRPs to treat injuries.

    Floyd on the other hand: We have no doctor for PRP, nothing written on any form. Floyd says it was so he could look prettier for a freaking boxing fight. Just before a fight does not make sense because Floyd's face could have been hit. Right? So the issue here is not necessarily the PRP but what actually occurred. The issue is that it appears to be BS. Floyd was caught with shades and a hat for an indoors interview and Floyd made up that excuse because he had noticeable side effects.

    Blood transfusions and machines used is also used to verify the HT levels and so on. So just beforehand, blood from Floyd was taken and then Floyd could have taken that stored blood and placed right back into him at a later date.

    Big difference ...

    PRP in itself for treating injuries is not banned.

    Do we have Floyd's doctor's name for the PRP?
    Do we have Floyd's doctor name for the IV?

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    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
      USADA didn't grant a tue for NSAC. USADA granted a tue for WADA.





      If NSAC rules banned IV use, then Floyd would have applied for a tue through NSAC.


      But NSAC rules doesn't ban IV use. So Floyd did not apply for a tue through NSAC.


      WADA rules ban IV use. So Floyd applied for a tue through a WADA signatory.
      Sorry but NSAC states that they need to know about this since like you finally pointed out, USADA has no jurisdiction. They can do fake BS retroactive TUEs for a fake medical condition but NSAC will not buy into that.

      NSAC said they are the "sole authority" in approving all TUEs in the state of Nevada.

      NSAC clarified all that. If they would have known about it then they would have said no to Floyd ..... but like I said, Floyd is the hometown guy in the state of Nevada and they are called the Nevada SAC. So I would not have bet any money on their clarifications.


      "The Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) has said the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) did not have the authority to grant a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) to Floyd Mayweather ahead of his victory over Manny Pacquiao.

      However, Bennett told BBC Sport on Friday: "Anyone should know worldwide, if you fight in the state of Nevada we are the sole authority for approving a TUE.

      "But USADA do not have the authority to authorise a TUE to a fighter in the state of Nevada."

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        - No mention by Floyd on severe deydration.
        - We did not hear about Floyd's severe case of dehydration until after the fight. 21 days later.
        - No visual evidence by Floyd. Many of his fans said Floyd looked good and ready.
        - After weigh in Floyd drank quite a bit after the visual evidence that he looked OK.
        - Manny had the meds in the prefight form. Floyd NOTHING!
        - Manny had hand written letter on meds at least 1 week in advance
        - Manny told NSAC BEFORE the fight!
        - "old" travestyny would laugh at "new" travestyny for saying "visual evidence". Then call "new", delusional, speculating, internet doctor in PJs.....

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        1. Floyd wasn't the one making up an excuse about his performance.
        2. Visual evidence he was dehydrated? That would be drinking water. Whether it was the most effective treatment or not, a dehydrated person would still take the opportunity to drink.
        3. You are comparing visual evidence of dehydration to visible evidence of a severe shoulder injury. I think you can see the difference, quite literally.
        4. Manny obviously wished to abuse Toradol. Have you looked Toradol up yet? Furthermore, there was never a confirmation that USADA received information about what the drugs were for. They approved it because it is not illegal according to their rules.
        5. Pacquaio then makes a request to take Toradol on fight night. Of course, NSAC asks why? And the answer is..oh, I HAD a shoulder injury... at some point in the past. NSAC explained why they didn't allow it. You can't twist this into him giving them notice. He tried to take Toradol after being found to be OK by the physicians who checked him out, and also after claiming to NOT have an injury before the fight. Even Roach has gone on record saying they were fine before the fight. So why Toradol?


        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Every case is different but swimming can be included in the rehab (see below)

        The technique of rotator cuff repair depends on the size and configuration of the tear. Smaller tears may be amenable to arthroscopic repair if the tendon quality remains robust. Larger tears are best fixed through an open incision. By 3 months, patients may resume full use of the extremity provided they have achieved a functional active range of motion. Progressive strengthening exercises with increased resistance and endurance exercises like swimming, rowing, and upper body ergometer are encouraged. In addition, we strongly encourage an aerobic conditioning program for the lower extremities to promote general health and fitness.
        1. This speaks against the type of surgery Manny had, since the doctor said he had a large tear (1 to 1.5 tendons). That would mean, according to this, open incision instead of arthroscopic surgery.

        2. The information you gave does not specify full or partial tears. It is all inclusive if you check out the site.

        3. He claimed he was healed by ONLY SWIMMING. This was at 3 months that he made this claim. The information from your source says this:

        "Return to Functional and Recreational Activities:

        With the consent of their surgeon, patients can often return to activities such as swimming, golf and tennis at 4-6 months after their surgery."

        Even if you take the information you provided from the site, it says 3 months. Pacquaio clearly was swimming before then.

        Again, this doesn't even take into account whether it is a full or partial tear. If he claims he was OK after only swimming at the 3 month mark, at what point do you think swimming began at?

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Manny's doctor said this beforehand
        "“He wanted to avoid a re-injury, so we proceeded with the surgery. He had healthy tissue and bone and suturing was very easy. We performed a type of arthroscopic repair that I developed…one which has shown to be the strongest type of rotator cuff repair we have today.”

        “So far his postop period is going well. He is in the Philippines and I will see him in a couple of weeks. If he wants to continue boxing then I see no reason why he can’t get back in the ring. Our goals for this early phase are for the repair to settle and to avoid damaging the suture tendon portion of the repair. We are allowing early motion, but not enough to stress the repair. Range of motion (ROM) is limited over the first 6 weeks; then we go for full ROM and begin strengthening at about 12 weeks. I will allow him to begin training in 6 months and he should be able to compete in 9-12 months.”
        Dude, why do you keep posting this. BEGIN STRENGTHENING at 3 months. Not "I'm fine...I been swimming and now I'm able to play basketball" at 3 months. This doesn't help you.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Manny was not training for the fight until maybe 8 months out? I do not know exactly but you are confusing all this. Doctor says rehab starts soon after surgery (weeks) NOT 7 or 9 months after. What the doctor wanted Manny to avoid was training for a fight. No boxing training for 6 months then he could get into real action at 9 - 12 months after surgery.

        There is a big difference between doing what he did and training for a fight.
        So your argument is that rehabilitation should include swimming and playing basketball. This is in direct conflict to information from the very doctor that performed the surgery on him. I already gave you this information a couple of times.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Plus, continue thinking this is Floyd and you will be alright. If it was FLoyd, you would say Floyd is not a doctor. Even lets say what Manny did was not expected, if it was FLoyd, you would just have said, he didn't know better and may have done more damage or was as you said, just dumb.


        "new travestny": "It does not matter what the doctor said. Manny said he is healed so it must be true. I got the pictures."
        Why are you pretending that all of the information I provided is based on word of mouth from Pacquio? That was the whole reason I responded the way I did in the last post:

        1. Visual Evidence During the Bout
        2. Photographic Evidence After Surgery
        3. Video Evidence After Surgery
        4. Evidence from what Manny said
        5. Eyewitness Evidence
        6. Evidence from his own surgeon
        7. Evidence from people on Manny's team
        8. Evidence from medical sources
        9. Evidence from the activity of people who have gone through the same proceedure

        Only one of the above is information directly from Manny.

        By the way, where was the quotation from his doctor that said he was 80%-90% cured in October. I thought you would have included it if it exists.
        Last edited by travestyny; 04-21-2016, 04:34 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
          Manny listed drugs like lidocaine and prp treatment (controversial because its a method for blood doping) on his prefight form to treat an undisclosed injury that they have been proven to have lied about.
          Top rank is on record lying about when, how, why and now the recovery process for Manny's injury.

          And this doesn't raise an eyebrow.

          No consitency from pact@rds. Especially since they scream "Floyd uses lidocaine and does vampire facials."
          Exactly. It's outrageous that ADP02 can't see this, but I don't expect him to. He obviously will never admit he is wrong (case in point, the infamous "Or") so this is all an exercise in futility.

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Sorry but NSAC states that they need to know about this since like you finally pointed out, USADA has no jurisdiction. They can do fake BS retroactive TUEs for a fake medical condition but NSAC will not buy into that.
            So in order to justify your statement and opinion - issuing a tue in order to comply with WADA rules "is BS".


            NSAC said they are the "sole authority" in approving all TUEs in the state of Nevada.
            If NSAC rules state an athelete doest need permission, then an athlete doesn't need to ask for permission.

            NSAC does not ban IV use.


            NSAC clarified all that. If they would have known about it then they would have said no to Floyd ..... but like I said, Floyd is the hometown guy in the state of Nevada and they are called the Nevada SAC. So I would not have bet any money on their clarifications.
            Your logic is severely flawed for you to speculate that NSAC would say "no" to IV use if their own rules say "yes" to IV use.

            NSAC does not ban IV use. Remember.


            "The Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) has said the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) did not have the authority to grant a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) to Floyd Mayweather ahead of his victory over Manny Pacquiao.
            USADA did not grant a tue for something that NSAC banned. This statement is taken out of context.

            However, Bennett told BBC Sport on Friday: "Anyone should know worldwide, if you fight in the state of Nevada we are the sole authority for approving a TUE.

            "But USADA do not have the authority to authorise a TUE to a fighter in the state of Nevada."
            These statements are taken out of context. Bennett spoke in general stemming from a different situation.

            Its all you can cling to. Rumors speculation and MISCONCEPTION.


            THE FACTS ARE:

            NSAC rules has nothing to do with WADA rules or its tue process.

            NSAC rules are insufficient and do not ban IV use.

            Manny and Floyd both agreed to
            do additional testing under WADA rules.

            USADA issued a tue for WADA rules.

            FLOYD did not require an exemption from NSAC rules to use an IV.

            TUE = theraputic use exemption.

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              1. Floyd wasn't the one making up an excuse about his performance.
              2. Visual evidence he was dehydrated? That would be drinking water. Whether it was the most effective treatment or not, a dehydrated person would still take the opportunity to drink.
              3. You are comparing visual evidence of dehydration to visible evidence of a severe shoulder injury. I think you can see the difference, quite literally.
              4. Manny obviously wished to abuse Toradol. Have you looked Toradol up yet?
              5. Pacquaio then makes a request to take Toradol on fight night. Of course, NSAC asks why? And the answer is..oh, I HAD a shoulder injury... at some point in the past. NSAC explained why they didn't allow it. You can't twist this into him giving them notice.
              1. Floyd actually got his "meds". Manny did not
              2. Have I looked up Toradol? Yes. It was not prohibited but NSAC still didnt' allow it. Have you looked up IVs?
              3. You brought up Oscar looked dehydrated. Many saw that Canelo was dehydrated at weigh in and had to sit down. Athletes with severe dehydration look much worse than Floyd.
              Floyd said he was severely dehydrated so one would think it would show but just like everything else we heard about Floyd, everything was normal!!!
              4. That is not the point. You said that there was nothing to give anyone a hint that there was anything wrong with Manny. Well, if you see a doctor and you used that list of meds and you included it on the form then one would conclude its for an injury.
              5. I told you that there are several reasons. Manny could have felt better but the injury was still there. Again, think Floyd. Floyd feels OK before a fight but still uses Xylocaine because of what they know can occur when his hands hit the opponent. There was an MRI done before and after the fight. THey said that there was more of a tear after the fight.

              "old" traverstyny would be telling "new" travestyny off and saying you cannot conclude unless you see the MRIs, video of the surgery and so on. "new" travestyny does not get "old" travestyny. Must be calling him names. They hate each other right now.

              1. This speaks against the type of surgery Manny had, since the doctor said he had a large tear (1 to 1.5 tendons). That would mean, according to this, open incision instead of arthroscopic surgery.

              2. The information you gave does not specify full or partial tears.

              3. He claimed he was healed by ONLY SWIMMING. This was at 3 months that he made this claim. The information from your source says this:

              "Return to Functional and Recreational Activities:

              With the consent of their surgeon, patients can often return to activities such as swimming, golf and tennis at 4-6 months after their surgery."

              Even if you take the information you provided from the site, it says 3 months. Pacquaio clearly was swimming before then.

              Again, this doesn't even take into account whether it is a full or partial tear. If he claims he was OK after only swimming at the 3 month mark, at what point do you think swimming began at?
              1. WHo knows more, "new" travestyny or the doctor who performed the surgery?
              "We performed a type of arthroscopic repair that I developed…one which has shown to be the strongest type of rotator cuff repair we have today.” - Dr. Neal ElAttrache

              "Our physicians have continued to innovate surgery methods that allow for quick, effective recovery. When compared with the traditional open surgical procedure, Arthroscopic is a minimally-invasive surgical technique that involves less trauma to the muscles, allowing for better joint stability and a quicker, less painful recovery"

              2.3. Wait. You just went from swimming is not recommended for rehab to something else. There are different degrees of doing an activity. For some, 4-6 months after, they can freely do their sport of choice but objectively speaking, it depends on the individual, the injury and the healing process. All say this.
              For Manny, his sport that he participates at the elite level is boxing. How long did he wait until he did that freely and with no restrictions?

              Manny's doctor said
              “He wanted to avoid a re-injury, so we proceeded with the surgery. He had healthy tissue and bone and suturing was very easy. We performed a type of arthroscopic repair that I developed…one which has shown to be the strongest type of rotator cuff repair we have today.”

              “So far his postop period is going well. He is in the Philippines and I will see him in a couple of weeks. If he wants to continue boxing then I see no reason why he can’t get back in the ring. Our goals for this early phase are for the repair to settle and to avoid damaging the suture tendon portion of the repair. We are allowing early motion, but not enough to stress the repair. Range of motion (ROM) is limited over the first 6 weeks; then we go for full ROM and begin strengthening at about 12 weeks. I will allow him to begin
              training in 6 months and he should be able to compete in 9-12 months.”

              Dude, why do you keep posting this. BEGIN STRENGTHENING at 3 months. Not "I'm fine...I been swimming and now I'm able to play basketball" at 3 months. This doesn't help you.
              You are confused. Doing an activity does not mean that they are fully recovered. Nor does it mean that they are doing the activity at the same level at different months.

              As for basketball, Manny is left handed. Surgery was performed on his right shoulder. Kind of self explanatory but I think you are getting all confused.

              So your argument is that rehabilitation should include swimming and playing basketball. This is in direct conflict to information from the very doctor that performed the surgery on him. I already gave you this information a couple of times.

              Again, you are confusing all of this. Take a step back. Pretend his name is Floyd and you will become "old" travestyny again .... but I prefer "new" travestyny. So do not change for me.

              Why are you pretending that all of the information I provided is based on word of mouth from Pacquio? That was the whole reason I responded the way I did in the last post:

              1. Visual Evidence During the Bout
              2. Photographic Evidence After Surgery
              3. Video Evidence After Surgery
              4. Evidence from what Manny said
              5. Eyewitness Evidence
              6. Evidence from his own surgeon
              7. Evidence from people on Manny's team
              8. Evidence from medical sources
              9. Evidence from the activity of people who have gone through the same proceedure

              Only one of the above is information directly from Manny.

              By the way, where was the quotation from his doctor that said he was 80%-90% cured in October. I thought you would have included it if it exists.
              Be objective for a second. What would "old" travestyny say about that list? Be honest? Think Floyd.

              I will help you a bit. From what I can tell, there were 2 times where they announced Manny's condition and that the results came from a doctor who examined Manny. One doctor said he was healing well but still needed to be careful and another cleared him I think just before the Bradley fight was announced.

              That list that you provided was not from a doctor who examined Manny.

              I had studies, NSAC, USADA, vital signs, Floyd's weight from 30 days out to just before the IV scandal. Even his weight after and we also know Floyd's walking weight. We had Floyd's own words as why he had the IV and who he thanked. "old" travestyny said that was not enough. He was hiding from that fake BS doctor's note that he knew we would never see and who was not the one Floyd thanked!!!!

              "new" travestyny, that list that you provided is like 60-70% in substance compared to what I provided against Floyd. WHile I know "old" travestyny hid from the truth but since your approach is similar to mine, perhaps you , "new" travestyny, are with me on Floyd?




              "Manny Pacquiao has been having treatment on the right shoulder he injured in training ...

              Pictures have emerged of the Filipino boxer having physiotherapy and an MRI scan at a hospital in Manila.


              Doctors said the injury was healing well, but still advised him to avoid strenuous activity."

              http://gulfnews.com/sport/boxing/man...jury-1.1592339

              Right after the visit to the doctor, Manny lets people know that he is not 100% yet. He says that he is at 80-90%.

              "Manny Pacquiao has said his surgically repaired shoulder is 80-90 percent healed and he expects to resume training ...

              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...turn-ring.html


              "Manny Pacquiao said Monday that his shoulder was mostly healed, and that he expects to begin training later this year ..."


              After MRI and visit to doctor:
              On Sept. 28, Pacquiao posted on Instagram that he was making "very good progress.":

              "Pacquiao told the Associated Press (h/t Fox Sports) that his shoulder is "80-90 percent" healed, with the boxer expecting to resume training in...


              http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...oulder-surgery

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              • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                So in order to justify your statement and opinion - issuing a tue in order to comply with WADA rules "is BS".




                If NSAC rules state an athelete doest need permission, then an athlete doesn't need to ask for permission.

                NSAC does not ban IV use.




                Your logic is severely flawed for you to speculate that NSAC would say "no" to IV use if their own rules say "yes" to IV use.

                NSAC does not ban IV use. Remember.




                USADA did not grant a tue for something that NSAC banned. This statement is taken out of context.



                These statements are taken out of context. Bennett spoke in general stemming from a different situation.

                Its all you can cling to. Rumors speculation and MISCONCEPTION.


                THE FACTS ARE:

                NSAC rules has nothing to do with WADA rules or its tue process.

                NSAC rules are insufficient and do not ban IV use.

                Manny and Floyd both agreed to
                do additional testing under WADA rules.

                USADA issued a tue for WADA rules.

                FLOYD did not require an exemption from NSAC rules to use an IV.

                TUE = theraputic use exemption.
                Its BS for numerous reasons.
                1) Even though he lied and said that he was severely dehydrated, we both know that he was not. If he was not then that makes that whole process BS!!!
                2) NSAC says that the whole world knows that in Nevada, the NSAC is the "sole authority" on Tue approvals. So NSAC is the one that is calling it all BS
                "However, Bennett told BBC Sport on Friday: "Anyone should know worldwide, if you fight in the state of Nevada we are the sole authority for approving a TUE.

                "USADA has been known historically as the premier performance-enhancing drugs-testing organization and they have an outstanding record.

                "But they do not have the authority to authorize a TUE to a fighter in the state of Nevada."

                3) Even others are calling out USADA: "The request for a retroactive TUE clause by Mayweather was su****ious and should not have been granted by USADA" said Conte. "Plain and simple. The fight took place under the jurisdiction of NSAC not USADA."
                He goes on and brings up "Conflict of interest can popup if a testing agency is being paid by one of their athletes". "Their independence is questioned"


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                Wrong about this too ..... Manny did let NSAC know about his injury and wanted to use a non-prohibited substance. So as you can see, NSAC wants to know about everything and that even though YOU and USADA thinks its OK not to let NSAC know, it does NOT mean its OK, OK?

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                No my logic is based on how they have clarified it all for us all. They told us that they already told all this in the past to USADA but USADA ignored NSAC on at least 3 different occasions. NSAC said this not me. NSAC has also clarified their position on TUEs, who can approve TUEs, retroactive TUEs and IVs and so on.

                Finally, just because Floyd hid behind USADA did not mean that this was supposed to kept from NSAC until 18 days after the fight. Everyone including Floyd fans saw this when it was for Manny's medical condition on a non-prohibitive substance but for Floyd, Floyd fans forgot what they said about Manny!



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                Last edited by ADP02; 04-21-2016, 11:56 PM.

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                • [QUOTE=ADP02;16634506]Its BS for numerous reasons.
                  1) Even though he lied and said that he was severely dehydrated, we both know that he was not. If he was not then that makes that whole process BS!!!
                  You take a partial statement from Floyd at face value but ignore Manny's MULTIPLE blatant contradictions about his injury. Very inconsistent of you.

                  We can only speculate as to Floyd's medical condition because of confidentiality laws. We both know that.

                  Manny the politician concerned about his public image, has a doctor disregard hipaa laws and they all eventually get caught in MORE lies about the injury. That's pathetic.

                  2) NSAC says that the whole world knows that in Nevada, the NSAC is the "sole authority" on Tue approvals. So NSAC is the one that is calling it all BS
                  "However, Bennett told BBC Sport on Friday: "Anyone should know worldwide, if you fight in the state of Nevada we are the sole authority for approving a TUE.
                  NSAC does not have to recognize a tue from another ADO. Keep repeating it until you're blue in the face.

                  Still doesn't change the fact that NSAC rules allows IV use and a NSAC TUE was not applicable.


                  "USADA has been known historically as the premier performance-enhancing drugs-testing organization and they have an outstanding record.


                  OUSTANDING. Read it again.

                  "But they do not have the authority to authorize a TUE to a fighter in the state of Nevada."
                  NSAC should ban IV use.

                  3) Even others are calling out USADA: "The request for a retroactive TUE clause by Mayweather was su****ious and should not have been granted by USADA" said Conte. "Plain and simple. The fight took place under the jurisdiction of NSAC not USADA."
                  NSAC rules allow IV use. No NSAC TUE was needed.

                  He goes on and brings up "Conflict of interest can popup if a testing agency is being paid by one of their athletes". "Their independence is questioned"
                  So does vada do free testing?
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                  Wrong about this too ..... Manny did let NSAC know about his injury and wanted to use a non-prohibited substance. So as you can see, NSAC wants to know about everything and that even though YOU and USADA thinks its OK not to let NSAC know, it does NOT mean its OK, OK?
                  NSAC was smart enough to not let MANNY PEDQUAIO juice up on pain killers for no reason at all 1 hour before the fight.

                  If MANNY had a legit injury it was his responsibility to not only inform USADA, but ALSO INFORM NSAC.
                  BUT WE ALL KNOW MANNY AND KONTZ PURPOSELY DID NOT DISCLOSE THE INJURY (LIED) AND IT BACKFIRED.

                  ----------------------------------

                  No my logic is based on how they have clarified it all for us all. They told us that they already told all this in the past to USADA but USADA ignored NSAC on at least 3 different occasions. NSAC said this not me. NSAC has also clarified their position on TUEs, who can approve TUEs, retroactive TUEs and IVs and so on.
                  And you take these statements out of context. The real issues were with UFC heavyweight Frank Mir - who was taking adderral and received a TUE from USADA to remain in compliance with WADA rules.

                  FRANK MIR DID NOT OBTAIN A TUE FROM NSAC, as instructed by USADA, and NSAC did not recognize the USADA tue. NSAC took action by informing MIR that he had to discontinue the use of the banned substance. That was MIR fault. Not USADA.

                  This is a situation where NSAC rules BANNED a substance and the fighter did not follow protocol.

                  NSAC said this is "confusing" to the fighter which was probably his alibi.

                  Combined with the hoopla surrounding Thomas Hauser fradulent article, bob bennet FOOLISHLY responded publicly with these comments - thus breathing life into hopeless pact@rds like yourself and inadvertently implicating floyd.

                  HOWEVER THESE STATMENTS HAVE BEEN FACTUALLY PROVEN THEY DO NOT APPLY TO FLOYD BECAUSE IV USE WAS NOT BANNED. HE NEVER NEEDED A TUE FOR NSAC.

                  Once the dust settled, and a little bit of fact checking about NSAC and IV use......

                  "Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong," Nevada State Athletic Commission chairman Bob Bennett told Showtime before the fight. "The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA rules for any type of drugs and we have no issue." - NSAC BOB BENNET.

                  So start screaming NSAC IS CORRUPT. OR YOU CAN START ACCEPTING FACTS.

                  Finally, just because Floyd hid behind USADA did not mean that this was supposed to kept from NSAC until 18 days after the fight. Everyone including Floyd fans saw this when it was for Manny's medical condition on a non-prohibitive substance but for Floyd, Floyd fans forgot what they said about Manny!



                  .
                  YOU HAVE NOTHING LEFT. YOU HAVE BEEN DESTROYED. DEBUNKED. YOU LOOK SILLY NOW. "ITS NOT FAIR" "MANNY NEEDS HIS TORADOL, HES NOT SCARED OF NEEDLES ANYMORE DOE" hahahahahahah

                  And despite Thomas Hauser agenda driven attack on Floyd and USADA - USADA still landed that pivotal UFC contract that VADA was after. Hahahahahahahahajahahahah


                  USADA will continue to grant TUE's to fighters, partly because the organization will test UFC's roster of 500+ fighters at least 2,750 times per year, even if fighter's are not licensed for an upcoming bout.

                  In the wake of these controversial reports on both Mayweather and Mir, Novitzky gave the following statement lending his full support to USADA:

                  "Based on 15 years of working with them and seeing how they make decisions and seeing how those decisions are ethical and how every single time they adhere to carrying out the WADA code, I have 100 percent confidence that we have enlisted the gold standard, best anti-doping agency in the world and all of our athletes should have that same trust and confidence. I haven't lost any of that in USADA. They're the best."



                  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. PACT@RDS AND HAUSER LOST.

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                  • Post links to ur anonymous sources otherwise BULL****!

                    Vitamins my ass the IV was a masking agent!

                    C'mon man don't presume us ******!

                    Dosumpthin I'm not a *******? Just a fan that knows boxing is a business first!

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                    • You guys keep beating this dead horse. There is nothing left to beat. It really is over, as one of you said, t this point it is futile!!

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