Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Manager Reveals The Terms For Stevenson Unification

[Scipio2009]

Lomachenko/TR didn't have a contract with HBO, but they have loyalty to HBO. When they lost a purse bid to Russell/Haymon, they accepted to take the fight on Showtime, because that was in the best interest of Lomachenko's career.

Stevenson's talking about loyalty to Showtime, that's fine, go back to Showtime after fighting Kovalev, but there's no legal obstruction preventing him from taking that fight.

Furthermore people need to shut the **** up about Kovalev signing exclusive rights with HBO. That's exactly what Stevenson did on the verge of his fight with Kovalev in 2014, he signed exclusive rights with Showtime. In fact, Haymon used to always have his fighters sign exclusive rights with his networks back in the day - Paul Williams, Arreola, Berto, Mayweather. Haymon had Khan sign an exclusive deal with Showtime. He doesn't do it anymore because #1 he has the hedge fund money to guarantee dates & purses and #2 he has Espinoza in his pocket. The only reason to have Khan & Stevenson sign exclusive deals with Showtime back then were to prevent them from going back to HBO.

except that Stevenson didn't sign exclusive rights to Showtime; Showtime beat the bid for Stevenson-Fonfara (with HBO backing out on matching the offer), which got them the option of Stevenson's next fight.

You should probably just stop making up stuff whole cloth, especially when it's rather easy for someone to do a Google search and refute your bull****.

[Scipio2009]

kovalev's ppl proposed US sites for a fighter that cant even fight in the US bc of priors?? and they they say yvon agreed to everything lol..yvon is no dumbie..he has likely only said he likes the 50-50 split
STOP LYING TO US KOVADOUCHE

... Stevenson came to the US, to fight Darnell Boone in 2010, nevermind the fact that Stevenson has been in attendance at fight cards in the US beforehand.

[Scipio2009]

lol

Haymon will always be second fiddle to HBO....they have the better shows, more proffesional announcers , known across the world and consistently produced all the world class world title for as long as I can remember....going back to hagler vs hearns to Pryor vs arguello...haymons shows fail in comparison.comapred with an HBO show......so if kovalev chooses and multi million pound contract with HBO over an Al haymon production then he has done the right thing.....and if we get the kovalev vs ward showdown on HBO then I'm glad kovalev stuck to his guns....Stevenson has no options of earning anywhere near what he can earn against kovalev ...and it was Stevenson who actually ran away from kovalev and signed with haymon...stick to your silly PBC shows and sooner or later haymon will be a thing of the past

What big fights are in the cue for HBO this year?

Ward-Kovalev, Fury-Klitschko 2, Pacquiao's retirement fight, two Canelo PPVs, and Golovkin maybe crushing another three cans (Dominic Wade is getting the shot a touch early, the WBC likely hands Golovkin their belt, Golovkin makes a token defense for the WBC, and then closes out the year with another junk fight).

some schedule

[Scipio2009]

Pbc isn't a tv network... If Adonis has no obligation to showtime then people here are blindly defending him. Hbo is setting everything up. Why SHOULD they split a small ppv with showtime? They're providing the date, the venue, all the logistics really and guaranteeing his money. Showtime isn't trying to make this fight. HBO is. Kovalev shouldnt sign a contract with HBO because it would impede negotiations with a guy who already backed out and did the same exact thing? a boxer wants to fight on hbo? Gtfo...that's unheard of. It's no pro fighters dream lol

We all know it's not hitting 300k ppv but thats an optomistic yet realistic expectation. It's probably more of a 190k type fight and Adonis is still being offered a guarantee of 2mil at least and a 50-50 split.

Why does showtime have to be involved 50-50 when HES ALREADY BEING OFFERED 50-50 DIRECTLY!?! It's like ATT offering you a job and you tell them you want to be paid through comcast. Better pay and sense be damned.


This isn't a Mayweather-Pacquiao where there's a few hundred mil to split between a lot of people. Stevenson might want the fight and he's probably in the same spot Pacquiao was before. doesn't make his own decisions . This is like Arum telling Floyd no because he wants to build a stadium despite Floyd having a venue, date, etc. it's ******ed.


I don't know the entire details on Adonis' status as a SHO fighter but it sounds like he has no obligation whatsoever himself. Maybe his management does or something but that's not Kov's team or HBO's problem.

Michel doesn't believes that the fight is going to do $4m at the gate, at MSG or in Vegas, and he doesn't believe that the fight is going to do $9m on PPV on HBO; heck, if Duva believed those numbers, the guarantee to Stevenson wouldn't be just $2m.

If the objective is to end up with GYM/Stevenson getting $7m on the fight, Michel is arguing that the structure of Main Events offer isn't likely to get there. So, he's offered giving up the $2m and marketing the entire fight 50/50; both promoters put the fight where they can get the biggest gate and both promoters marketing the fight to as many people as possible, to goose the PPV number as high as possible.

As things seem currently structured, Main Events is promising $15m for a fight that may actually end up doing $7m-$8m; lol

[Scipio2009]

But kovalev is the A- side yes ? He has a bigger following and is considered the best light heavyweight in the world...Stevenson would also receive 50-50 and the largest purse of his career....showtime are not giving him any dates and he's not signed to them exclusively.....kovalev is the A- side duh and I've been reading many posts from you about canelo being the A- side with golovkin ....you have double standards bongo.....but the reality is kovalev has ward lined up for a big end of year fight ...Stevenson has nothing major planned so I don't think kovalev is gonna lose money but I know Stevenson is.....showtime are not concerned about Stevenson and they want to get involved because it's gonna be a high profile fight....HBO are always on board with kovalev.....so either Stevenson fights on there show or he can go back pimping with his black suit and purple pimp tie and spend time with his 50 dollar hoes .....kovalev is the A- side remember. Lol

Kovalev went back to Montreal, after stopping Jean Pascal, because his Vegas headliner flopped so hard that Duva didn't want to take the chance.

What following are you even talking about?

[tiliheels]

... Stevenson came to the US, to fight Darnell Boone in 2010, nevermind the fact that Stevenson has been in attendance at fight cards in the US beforehand.

and there are times where he has since been denied the rights in...ijs

[The plunger man]

Kovalev went back to Montreal, after stopping Jean Pascal, because his Vegas headliner flopped so hard that Duva didn't want to take the chance.

What following are you even talking about?

Kovalev is still the A- side compared with Stevenson lol...another deluded fool has popped up ....who's Stevenson fighting in November and who's kovalev bongo ?

[The plunger man]

What big fights are in the cue for HBO this year?

Ward-Kovalev, Fury-Klitschko 2, Pacquiao's retirement fight, two Canelo PPVs, and Golovkin maybe crushing another three cans (Dominic Wade is getting the shot a touch early, the WBC likely hands Golovkin their belt, Golovkin makes a token defense for the WBC, and then closes out the year with another junk fight).

some schedule

Ward - kovalev...golovkin - canelo Pacquaio - Bradley still beats any fight PBC has lined up so far this year and then there's others to be announced....AND Gonzalez that's makes almost the top 10 p4p in the world....ohh yeah you have broner vs pheophane

[ИATAS]

So if Khan can fight on HBO why can't Stevenson? Why can't Jacobs and so on? Is Khan a unique circumstance or does it simply boil down to the fighter?

[killakali]

and there are times where he has since been denied the rights in...ijs

so how pissed are you that Dominic Wade is turning his back on Showtime and Shobox who gave him his only exposure to fight GGG on HBO and on Khan for fighting Canelo on HBO ppv without Showtimes involvement when he fought last on Showtime exactly one day after Adonis Stevenson. Based on all of your other showtime fan boy actions you must be really pissed today lololol