Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Manager Reveals The Terms For Stevenson Unification

[Scipio2009]

how is he screwing him out of a payday? The guarantee minimum is 2mil. should he go fight a high risk low reward mandatory vs Alvarez for his 1.5??? He should take the cash and run

Stevenson will make significantly more than $2m for fighting Alvarez in April (rumors say that that is the plan).

Beyond that, if Main Events is projecting $4m at the gate, the actual gate ends up being closer to $1m, and Michel believes he could get the gate to over $2m at the Bell Centre in Montreal, going with Duva's deal took $3m out of the pot for his fighter.

If Duva is projecting 300k PPV buys, the actual buy count ends up being 150k PPV buys, and Michel believes he could've gotten that number up to at least 250k if he'd worked all his contacts, going with Duva's deal took $5m out of the pot for his fighter.

Because, and let's be honest here, if the fight is as big as Duva seems to believe in her projections, the guarantee to the fighters would be far more than $4m (assuming the 50/50 concept held through the entire deal); the idea that a fighter would take $2m right after the fight, only to then wait 16 months to get their other $5m is ridiculous.

Taking the $4m guarantee as fair assessment of the fight ($1m at the gate; $3m from the PPV, basically translating as 100k PPV buys @$60 per PPV), and you've got a more realistic projection for the event.

[Scipio2009]

actually the rumor is Wilder dumps the belt and fights Martin instead of Povetkin

If you had a source for that one, I'd greatly appreciate it; nothing popped up on Google, so I'm assuming that you're just trying to muddle the conversation. kinda sad, tbh

[killakali]

dude look at the star power difffernce wade is nothing compared to kovalev, stevenson, or GGG..he has to take wat he can get..and he has not ever been signed to showtime..they likely dont even have options on him..it is highly like that showtime has options on many of haymon's fighters especially onces that they signed exclusive deals.
canelo is way huger than kov..he doesnt need extra promo! and the split in that figh tis no where near the same as 50-50..dont use ****** arguments when u finally see that haymon is doing fair business...but it is not fair for hbo to be the only one getting paid when haymon would have won the purse bid and put it on his network..it is also not fair to showtime if htey have options that we dont know about...stevenson promoter brought in showtime...that should mean he knows more than you! if he goes there without showtime he likely will get sued

Wrong again. Khan fought on Showtime one day after Stevenson and we know Haymon doesn't bind his fighters to one promoter or network. Khan is a way bigger star than Stevenson and Showtime loses more money by not being involved in this fight than a Kovalev Stevenson fight

[killakali]

If you had a source for that one, I'd greatly appreciate it; nothing popped up on Google, so I'm assuming that you're just trying to muddle the conversation. kinda sad, tbh

Stories about it have been on this site with quotes from ryabysky tbh

[tiliheels]

Wrong again. Khan fought on Showtime one day after Stevenson and we know Haymon doesn't bind his fighters to one promoter or network. Khan is a way bigger star than Stevenson and Showtime loses more money by not being involved in this fight than a Kovalev Stevenson fight

khan never had an exclusive deal..we know that stevenson did..and the deal was not complete from my knowledge...it was a 2 year deal..if they did lose money with stevenson they probably took and out option but still have an option on a fight that they feel is massive...stevenson promoter went to them! that tells you he binded..his terms were hbo/showtime before kathy ever offered anything.

but hbo runs a huge risk if they try to do it all alone with 2 guys who are not stars...the risk is much smaller if you showtime in and pool resources..its is very smart....
haymon shouldnt rob his fighter and not promote his fight to a potential 6 million more ppl freely, but im sure that only happens if hbo and showtime get their head in the game..

[killakali]

Stevenson will make significantly more than $2m for fighting Alvarez in April (rumors say that that is the plan).

Beyond that, if Main Events is projecting $4m at the gate, the actual gate ends up being closer to $1m, and Michel believes he could get the gate to over $2m at the Bell Centre in Montreal, going with Duva's deal took $3m out of the pot for his fighter.

If Duva is projecting 300k PPV buys, the actual buy count ends up being 150k PPV buys, and Michel believes he could've gotten that number up to at least 250k if he'd worked all his contacts, going with Duva's deal took $5m out of the pot for his fighter.

Because, and let's be honest here, if the fight is as big as Duva seems to believe in her projections, the guarantee to the fighters would be far more than $4m (assuming the 50/50 concept held through the entire deal); the idea that a fighter would take $2m right after the fight, only to then wait 16 months to get their other $5m is ridiculous.

Taking the $4m guarantee as fair assessment of the fight ($1m at the gate; $3m from the PPV, basically translating as 100k PPV buys @$60 per PPV), and you've got a more realistic projection for the event.

U don't seem to get the Economics. If the gate is 1mil vs 4mil it doesn't take 3mil out of the pot for his fighter. His fighter is getting 50-50 and that isn't straight to the fighter. Promoters get a cut. And u don't wait 16 months for the other ppv money to come in. It comes in monthly.

Let's be honest. Stevenson's appeal in Quebec has dwindled. Look at his recent attendance figures and this is with tons of giveaways. There is a reason he fought in Toronto and those figures were dismal as well.

Showtime not getting cut in on khan is way bigger loss than not being on Kovalev Stevenson.

[tiliheels]

Wrong again. Khan fought on Showtime one day after Stevenson and we know Haymon doesn't bind his fighters to one promoter or network. Khan is a way bigger star than Stevenson and Showtime loses more money by not being involved in this fight than a Kovalev Stevenson fight

howtime Sports' executive vice president and general manager Stephen Espinoza said the deal is for the Fonfara fight, but added, "There is a structure which allows us to continue for multiple fights beyond that."

see wat i mean..these big wigs just dont say "1 year, 2 year, or 3 days"..they take as much as the rope as they can when the compensate you..they have options on any fight of his they want at this point im sure...khan was not a lineal champ..he as a ko victim i never heard of him having any deal with showtime only being a haymon fighter..huge differnce, but im sure that puts showtime in first place if they offer him a deal

hbo didnt even try to negotiate to keep stevenson when showtime wanted him so blame them for not putting up the money to make the fight that they claim they can pay for now! lol

[killakali]

howtime Sports' executive vice president and general manager Stephen Espinoza said the deal is for the Fonfara fight, but added, "There is a structure which allows us to continue for multiple fights beyond that."

see wat i mean..these big wigs just dont say "1 year, 2 year, or 3 days"..they take as much as the rope as they can when the compensate you..they have options on any fight of his they want at this point im sure...khan was not a lineal champ..he as a ko victim i never heard of him having any deal with showtime only being a haymon fighter..huge differnce, but im sure that puts showtime in first place if they offer him a deal

hbo didnt even try to negotiate to keep stevenson when showtime wanted him so blame them for not putting up the money to make the fight that they claim they can pay for now! lol

Funny how u cited similar wording to why GGG HBO contract would be up lol. And Stevenson just fought on spike which isn't affiliated with showtime and further more haymon has so much influence at showtime he could convince them to allow it to happen in a one off format on hbo but the reality is you will blindly defend anything the pbc boys do

[killakali]

khan never had an exclusive deal..we know that stevenson did..and the deal was not complete from my knowledge...it was a 2 year deal..if they did lose money with stevenson they probably took and out option but still have an option on a fight that they feel is massive...stevenson promoter went to them! that tells you he binded..his terms were hbo/showtime before kathy ever offered anything.

but hbo runs a huge risk if they try to do it all alone with 2 guys who are not stars...the risk is much smaller if you showtime in and pool resources..its is very smart....
haymon shouldnt rob his fighter and not promote his fight to a potential 6 million more ppl freely, but im sure that only happens if hbo and showtime get their head in the game..

khan a 3 fight deal with showtime. google it. now you are looking even more foolish

[tiliheels]

Funny how u cited similar wording to why GGG HBO contract would be up lol. And Stevenson just fought on spike which isn't affiliated with showtime and further more haymon has so much influence at showtime he could convince them to allow it to happen in a one off format on hbo but the reality is you will blindly defend anything the pbc boys do

no..no..haymon isnt goint to tell showtime to lose money and they be fine with it..i doubt that..that is a business relationship killing move..if they have options they will have to get something great from haymon to take their hand out the point...but all of that takes negotiations, but kathy duva put a deadline on it all instead of working for wat is best for the fans..it is all business she keeps pulling out when it gets good

i never talked GGG contract being up..u have the wrong person..he is stuck to hbo.