Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Manager Reveals The Terms For Stevenson Unification

[tiliheels]

wrong again...Porter-Broner is Showtime Championship Boxing on CBS. Have u seen the commercials? No mention of PBC. This is just putting a Sho card on CBS. Stevenson was on cbs as part of pbc. that was a time buy. think before you speak. And you just made my point even more by saying that maybe Stevenson has a showtime deal and haymon traded a broner fight for Stevenson to fight on Spike. If that is the case he can trade some other fighter to allow Stevenson to fight on HBO for one fight. class dismissed.

the title doesnt matter..that should tell you who Showtime has options on several haymon fighters..its smarter than locking a guy in and without have good relationships with other ppl who have platforms..

u asked can he trade fighters with hbo? well i'd say yes..hbo kicked him off so they have to be willing to mend that fence..they havent reached out to do that and they are blatantly telling us they are not working with no one but themselves..so how is that haymons fault..

im just very certain that none of us know the business of haymon fighters..bc he is not a talker like duckhead duva

[tiliheels]

How is Stevenson growing? As far as the arc of his career is concerned, it's on a serious downswing. Who has he fought recently? His level of competition since he won the WBC title and loves to talk about being the lineal champ at LHW, is abysmal.
You claim he's knocking mf's spark out yet those mf's are either blown up SMW's such as Sakio Bika or are nowhere near true world title contention like Tommy Karpency. The last decent opponent he faced was Fonfara and if there were still 15 rounders, he would've knocked Stevenson's gassed ass out.
Meanwhile, Kovalev beat Hopkins and Pascals twice, two contenders who Stevenson wouldn't even face, let alone agreeing to fight Kovalev. Those are just the facts. I'm amazed that there are so many Haymonites and Stevenson supporters who are making pathetic and unfounded attempts to defend Stevenson's choice of opponents and behavior outside the ring and during negotiations for a potential unification that neither him nor his bosses have any intention of making.
Say what you want about Kovalev dominating a 50 year old man in Hopkins but Stevenson was scared to even agree to fight him. He is the LHW Wilder right now, all talk but no action. Wilder talks about being the best in the world and wanting to unify and take over the HW division but he fights Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka and anyone else he can find that is in non-contention. What a joke.

im sure fonfara beats pascal just like gonazeles did and fonfara at this stage beats hopkins bc he is too long and strong..

but in terms of money haymon keeps getting him career high pay days and he's fought guys that ko'd some of kovalev's opponents...
kovalev's recent resume is better yes, but overall they are very comparable

hopkins is the one who jumped networks when stevenson left hbo to fight him so get your facts correct and dont listen to the bs

[robbyheartbaby]

Dude it's not a ppv fight just like 3G-Pepe Lemieux wasn't that's a regular broadcast fight no matter how you try and spin it

I just figured if any fight was PPV worthy it would be unification fights like this. They are supposed to be a big deal and Kovalev & Stevenson is a big deal I would have thought.

[robbyheartbaby]

No i dont. I just wait for the "glory fighters" to fight so i can say i watch the sport.

This is a good fight but in no way a PPV but hey whatever.

Ha! Boxing fans watching boxing, thats like thinking an NFL fan wants to watch football. We are waiting for the season to end so we can debate the Collective Bargaining Agreement with friends like real fans

Well you got a few posts under your belt, I assume you know your stuff, all I am saying is I would pay for a fight like this.

[theface07]

Kilmas sounds like a side-talking weasel, full of contractions. Stephenson goes out of his way to take time out of his life and travel to the event, call Kovalev out, and then your bytch ass calls him scared??? Pu-lease...
As far as the deal itself, really impossible to know what the truth is anymore as we aren't privy to enough info. Fans want to pretend they know what's up just based on which fighter they like, and that's just being ignorant. I think both sides are playing games.

You can't seriously be as gullible as you sound. There's the pot calling the kettle black saying Klimas is full of contradictions while defending Stevenson. What are you talking about with Stevenson going out of his way? He lives in Quebec! The fight was virtually in his back yard. If you really think Stevenson made an appearance in the ring because he legitimately wants to fight Kovalev you're astonishingly naive and more easy to convince than a three year old. Stevenson and Haymon know that the majority of the rational boxing community doesn't have to think very hard to realize that Stevenson is avoiding fighting a top contender for his title like the plague. They had Stevenson act like he wants the fight because people like you will interpret such actions as a call to arms and confirmation in Stevenson's desire to actually unify his title. Talk is cheap and actions always speak louder than words.
It amazes me how easily people can be persuaded into thinking a boxer such as Stevenson actually means what he says just because he acts as if he means business when in fact he was just doing damage control in a vain and unsuccessful attempt at repairing his already suspect reputation.
Just because somebody says something doesn't mean it's the truth or even represents their honest opinion or beliefs. Hitler was able to rally a lot of people behind his beliefs because he was a powerful public speaker, came into power at the right/wrong time and had a hierarchy of supporters regardless of how ludicrous or inherently wrong his beliefs were. He talked more trash than anyone and had no real facts to back up any of his racist and genocidal claims. Be very careful about what you interpret from public statements made by people in the public eye. On many occasions, such statements will contain more rhetoric, hyperbole and bravado than truth and honesty.
I'm not trying to say Stevenson's opinions or beliefs reflect those of Hitler but there are parallels in a lot of the hollow and baseless testimonials made by a lot of the title holders under the Haymon umbrella and the erroneous drivel that Hitler spat out on a regular basis in an effort to deceive the public consciousness. They both have no facts to back up their claims and they both are trying to convince their audience that they are legitimate and worth taking seriously.

[PlasterWraps]

All the dudes suggesting that Showtime be involved in this are insanely delusional

It's like you take time and effort and invest millions of dollars coming with the best product on the market, then when you're about to close in on a deal with a customer, they demand that you give half of your profits to your competitor, for no f*king reason.

Are you guys non-native English speakers or something? Does exclusive mean something else in whatever dialect of English you're speaking?

Pro-tip: Don't start any businesses if that's how you do business.

Wish Aquackis would stop ducking though, I want to see him get wrecked.

[theface07]

im sure fonfara beats pascal just like gonazeles did and fonfara at this stage beats hopkins bc he is too long and strong..

but in terms of money haymon keeps getting him career high pay days and he's fought guys that ko'd some of kovalev's opponents...
kovalev's recent resume is better yes, but overall they are very comparable

hopkins is the one who jumped networks when stevenson left hbo to fight him so get your facts correct and dont listen to the bs

Everybody has fought opponents who KO'd opponent of another fighter. What does that prove? You don't start off in the pro game fighting top level competition. Every fighter in the history of boxing has a few bums on their record when they were prospects or early in their career. The only thing that matters is that when you do get to the top level, as in securing a title, you are fighting, or attempting to get an agreement to fight the best in your division. Who has Stevenson fought lately, since he obtained his title that is truly world class? Fonfara is the only one who comes close and he almost knocked his ass out.
Even you agree that Kovalev's recent resume is better than Stevenson's. This is all that matters. It doesn't matter who they fought 5 years ago before they were world level or title holders themselves. They didn't have the responsibility then. They weren't world champions. Therefore, they are no longer comparable. Kovalev is doing whatever he can to get the best in the ring and continue to prove his worth. The same can't be said of Stevenson. He's not a true champion. In any other sport, what he is doing would never happen. If Haymon rules applied to other sports, once a team gets to the final playoff series, instead of facing the other best team in the league, they could choose to face a team that never made it out of the first round!
According to what you're saying, Hopkins was scared to fight Stevenson and fought Kovalev instead? Give me a break man. No one is going to buy that one. The contract was made and it was signed by Hopkins. Stevenson failed to sign and Hopkins got tired of waiting and went for Kovalev instead. It's arguable that Hopkins wanted to face Stevenson first because he knew he would have a better chance of beating him than Kovalev.
I try not to listen to the BS but there is so much of it going around on this site by misguided and uninformed fans that it's really hard to avoid. There's no way you can convince me that Hopkins only faced Kovalev because he avoided Stevenson. That makes absolutely no sense

[Redd Foxx]

You can't seriously be as gullible as you sound. There's the pot calling the kettle black saying Klimas is full of contradictions while defending Stevenson. What are you talking about with Stevenson going out of his way? He lives in Quebec! The fight was virtually in his back yard. If you really think Stevenson made an appearance in the ring because he legitimately wants to fight Kovalev you're astonishingly naive and more easy to convince than a three year old. Stevenson and Haymon know that the majority of the rational boxing community doesn't have to think very hard to realize that Stevenson is avoiding fighting a top contender for his title like the plague. They had Stevenson act like he wants the fight because people like you will interpret such actions as a call to arms and confirmation in Stevenson's desire to actually unify his title. Talk is cheap and actions always speak louder than words.
It amazes me how easily people can be persuaded into thinking a boxer such as Stevenson actually means what he says just because he acts as if he means business when in fact he was just doing damage control in a vain and unsuccessful attempt at repairing his already suspect reputation.
Just because somebody says something doesn't mean it's the truth or even represents their honest opinion or beliefs. Hitler was able to rally a lot of people behind his beliefs because he was a powerful public speaker, came into power at the right/wrong time and had a hierarchy of supporters regardless of how ludicrous or inherently wrong his beliefs were. He talked more trash than anyone and had no real facts to back up any of his racist and genocidal claims. Be very careful about what you interpret from public statements made by people in the public eye. On many occasions, such statements will contain more rhetoric, hyperbole and bravado than truth and honesty.
I'm not trying to say Stevenson's opinions or beliefs reflect those of Hitler but there are parallels in a lot of the hollow and baseless testimonials made by a lot of the title holders under the Haymon umbrella and the erroneous drivel that Hitler spat out on a regular basis in an effort to deceive the public consciousness. They both have no facts to back up their claims and they both are trying to convince their audience that they are legitimate and worth taking seriously.

Stopped at 'Hitler'. When someone brings up old Adolph, they've already lost the argument. Beyond that, either poor reading comprehension or strong bias is preventing you from looking at this in an honest way.

[tiliheels]

everybody has fought opponents who ko'd opponent of another fighter. What does that prove? You don't start off in the pro game fighting top level competition. Every fighter in the history of boxing has a few bums on their record when they were prospects or early in their career. The only thing that matters is that when you do get to the top level, as in securing a title, you are fighting, or attempting to get an agreement to fight the best in your division. Who has stevenson fought lately, since he obtained his title that is truly world class? Fonfara is the only one who comes close and he almost knocked his ass out.
Even you agree that kovalev's recent resume is better than stevenson's. This is all that matters. It doesn't matter who they fought 5 years ago before they were world level or title holders themselves. They didn't have the responsibility then. They weren't world champions. Therefore, they are no longer comparable. Kovalev is doing whatever he can to get the best in the ring and continue to prove his worth. The same can't be said of stevenson. He's not a true champion. In any other sport, what he is doing would never happen. If haymon rules applied to other sports, once a team gets to the final playoff series, instead of facing the other best team in the league, they could choose to face a team that never made it out of the first round!
According to what you're saying, hopkins was scared to fight stevenson and fought kovalev instead? Give me a break man. No one is going to buy that one. The contract was made and it was signed by hopkins. Stevenson failed to sign and hopkins got tired of waiting and went for kovalev instead. It's arguable that hopkins wanted to face stevenson first because he knew he would have a better chance of beating him than kovalev.
I try not to listen to the bs but there is so much of it going around on this site by misguided and uninformed fans that it's really hard to avoid. There's no way you can convince me that hopkins only faced kovalev because he avoided stevenson. That makes absolutely no sense

im talkin about recently tho..muhamidi was kovalev last opponent before pascal..and stevenson got flack fo fighting a guy that already ko'd a guy that kovalv was about to fight!

Hopkins lost to dawson..and stevenson rung his bell..makes kovalev's win over him mean nothing to stevenson

[Redd Foxx]

You mean drove 10 minutes from Bainsville to Montreal??

You would get a bunch of friends together, dress up, and devote an entire evening to calling out a guy that you supposedly want nothing to do with? Well, maybe I'm asking the wrong crowd but people with lives don't waste time with shyt like that. It was a ****** statement and wishful thinking on the part of Kovalev fans who, for some reason, don't want him to fight a 39 year old champ with massive holes in his game. Maybe, if he was 10 years older, like Hopkins...

That's what I don't get about GGG and KKK fans. They get pissed about the idea of these guys facing real competition. Take a note from Fury fans, who were excited to see their guy go for the glory. That's a real champ.