GGG vs Wade and Ward Vs Barrera, the double standards are sickening!!!

[CaneloMaidana]

Ward is moving up. Something Golovkin is scared to do. If Golovkin moved up and fought an undefeated Cuban his fans would crown him GOAT.

[HeroBando]

Ward is moving up. Something Golovkin is scared to do. If Golovkin moved up and fought an undefeated Cuban his fans would crown him GOAT.

I think the standards are a bit higher for Ggg, sorry alt. For example trying to fight then #1 active SMW, p4p rated Froch in the UK (!) Is considered a cherrypick

[j0zef]

I'm more of a Golovkin fan than Ward, but Barrera is much better than Wade. He has a legit amateur pedigree, has more experience (he's what, 6-7 years older?) and has demonstrated a legit pop in him.

Added to that, Ward may not be a SMW anymore, but he's never fought a legit LHW yet. This is a great first fight for Ward at LHW. Wade/GGG sucks. But I don't think that fight happens - Wade has little desire to face him and will accept a modest step aside fee.

[firstborn]

[QUOTE]I think the standards are a bit higher for Ggg, sorry alt. For example trying to fight then #1 active SMW, p4p rated Froch in the UK (!) Is considered a cherrypick[/QUOTE]

Only by folks looking to provoke GGG fans. I think most reasonable people called GGG out because he offered Froch the fight at 168lb but only offered the fight to Ward at 164lb even though they were both in the same division at the time...

[Sweet Pea 50]

Well your problem is twofold. You care about bothe the IBF and boxrec ratings. Both pretty terrible. Boxrec is good for ballpark rankings, and sometimes they get it right by not abiding by lineal rules. But mostly terrible

No, my problem is zerofold in regards to both Boxrec and the IBF.

Since I really don't give a shit about either.

But if me pointing out the thread starters obsession with it seems I do, that's fine.

GGG is the best MW in the world. The only guys I want to see him face in the foreseeable future at 160 is Jacobs and Canelo. I don't really care about a Lara fight.

If the IBF strap happens to be on the line if/when he happens to face them, fine. It's just another trinket for whoever the in-ring announcer is to yell out before the fight.

And I have never heard Buffer or Lennon Jr.yell out a Boxrec title before a championship fight, but your mileage might vary.

[Nubia]

racism towards...koreans?

[Teddy05]

Ward is moving up. Something Golovkin is scared to do. If Golovkin moved up and fought an undefeated Cuban his fans would crown him GOAT.

Scared to do? lol He wants to unify Middleweight before moving. Middleweight being 160 pounds of course, not the new 155 pound weight class

[HeroBando]

[QUOTE=firstborn;16423519]

I think the standards are a bit higher for Ggg, sorry alt. For example trying to fight then #1 active SMW, p4p rated Froch in the UK (!) Is considered a cherrypick[/QUOTE]

Only by folks looking to provoke GGG fans. I think most reasonable people called GGG out because he offered Froch the fight at 168lb but only offered the fight to Ward at 164lb even though they were both in the same division at the time...

Which is like 90% of anti Ggg posts here, so a good chunk of the overall traffic. Either way Barrera is a decent fight, but pretty sure Ggg would get a lot of **** fighting a guy of that caliber at 168. I mean that's Chudinov level at best

[HeroBando]

No, my problem is zerofold in regards to both Boxrec and the IBF.

Since I really don't give a shit about either.

But if me pointing out the thread starters obsession with it seems I do, that's fine.

GGG is the best MW in the world. The only guys I want to see him face in the foreseeable future at 160 is Jacobs and Canelo. I don't really care about a Lara fight.

If the IBF strap happens to be on the line if/when he happens to face them, fine. It's just another trinket for whoever the in-ring announcer is to yell out before the fight.

And I have never heard Buffer or Lennon Jr.yell out a Boxrec title before a championship fight, but your mileage might vary.

Full unification doesn't happen every day, when was the last one? So its a big deal. It's probably 2x as important to someone that's dominant in his division yet has never been ranked #1, except by boxrec crappy system

[Sweet Pea 50]

Full unification doesn't happen every day, when was the last one? So its a big deal. It's probably 2x as important to someone that's dominant in his division yet has never been ranked #1, except by boxrec crappy system

At 160? It depends how far you want to go back, and which sanctioning bodies were around to claim a unified champion, I would suppose.

We have threads excoriating sanctioning bodies on here.

Here's one such example:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=700029

The belts don't really decide who is the best anymore.

I'm not going to shit on Golovkin for wanting to hold the 4 major titles as a goal.

But him not holding all 4 won't change my view of him as being the best in the division, with all the bullshit involved with the sanctioning bodies.

He fights and beats the best guys at the weight, titles be damned, he is the man. Goes for just about any fighter at any weight division, IMHO.