Did people forget how bad Wilder looked?

[Teddy05]

Yes, Wilder mauls guys on the inside, he knows how to create angles too. Szpilka's head movement, the pace at which he was moving at, the southpaw stance, it took Wilder time to adapt. Szpilka's style also pretty much neutralized any inside fighting.

Szpilka had an okay round after losing several in a row, but he was obviously starting to slow down and get hit more as Wilder calmed down. I don't think Wilder was tired at all, he was just settling down and looking for the KO punch. His fight with Stiverne was fought at with a much higher pace and he got hit much more by a much harder puncher.


A guy like Fury can fight at southpaw and is mobile, however he's a huge target compared to Szpilka who made himself a very small target.

Umm when has wilder ever shown an inside game?

[LacedUp]

Yes, Wilder mauls guys on the inside, he knows how to create angles too. Szpilka's head movement, the pace at which he was moving at, the southpaw stance, it took Wilder time to adapt. Szpilka's style also pretty much neutralized any inside fighting.

Szpilka had an okay round after losing several in a row, but he was obviously starting to slow down and get hit more as Wilder calmed down. I don't think Wilder was tired at all, he was just settling down and looking for the KO punch. His fight with Stiverne was fought at with a much higher pace and he got hit much more by a much harder puncher.


A guy like Fury can fight at southpaw and is mobile, however he's a huge target compared to Szpilka who made himself a very small target.

Really? Can you point me to a fight where he fought on the inside? I don't recall ever seeing him do it. It might be true, I just don't remember seeing it.

I don't think Wilder calmed down at all. He looked the absolute worst in the 7th and 8th, swinging and missing, ending up on the floor himself. He also punched the ropes and carried his feet as if they were attached to ball and chain.

That's true I suppose, as is the consensus with every big fighter. Fury though is much busier with his work and can actually fight inside and outside as well as having a decent reach advantage to Wilder meaning Wilder will have to come in eating jabs.

Fury's footwork is also far far superior to Wilder's.

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Wilder's magnificent technique. #bestintheworlddoe

[Teddy05]

Wilder's magnificent technique. #bestintheworlddoe

The saddest part of that picture is that was a world title fight ffs

[HWChampion]

The saddest part of that picture is that was a world title fight ffs

LOL i don't know what's worse, the footwork or Molina quivering like a child.

[Fury4daWIN]

Umm when has wilder ever shown an inside game?

Against Duhaupas.

[Teddy05]

Against Duhaupas.

That was when Wilder was at his weakest in that fight

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Is he? Where's the evidence of that? Wilder should be putting these guys away with ease if he's improving, not going nine/ten rounds with them and getting hurt and rocked in the process. That shows a clear decline, IMO.

Look at how Wilder handled Szpilka and how Bryant Jennings handled him with far fewer fights and less amateur experience to boot. This isn't some ultra slick Chris Byrd-alike. It's a boxer/slugger who happens to move his head a bit and isn't afraid to get stuck in. Wilder shouldn't be letting guys like this be remotely competitive with him.

This "he's learning on the job" nonsense has to stop.

He didn't have a big amature backround, why do u think its just so easy to put away a professional boxer and not get hurt in the process??? these are people who train to hurt people in the ring for a living, it happens. Wilder is no elite boxer, what do u expect??? mayweather performances??? he is learning on the job, its hard to succeed in the sport without the armature background, not everyone does, look at quillen and many more. Its obvious he needs rounds vs different styles while getting money in his pockets in this crooked sport which is the same thing you would do. there are exceptions where fighters with little armature fights do great but not a majority, I said he needs work! and you agree... my point is lets see what the future holds and stop all this whining, im finally excited about the heavy weight division, lets not ruin it with all this duck bum talk. or maybe u can start training and lets see how far u go in the sport, maybe then u guys will have respect for what ALL these guys do and how hard it is.

[FrontproofMedia]

I've never been impressed by him honestly. He has very questionable skills and fights far too much like an amateur in my opinion. His saving grace thus far has been his height and punching power.

[Fury4daWIN]

He didn't have a big amature backround, why do u think its just so easy to put away a professional boxer and not get hurt in the process??? these are people who train to hurt people in the ring for a living, it happens. Wilder is no elite boxer, what do u expect??? mayweather performances??? he is learning on the job, its hard to succeed in the sport without the armature background, not everyone does, look at quillen and many more. Its obvious he needs rounds vs different styles while getting money in his pockets in this crooked sport which is the same thing you would do. there are exceptions where fighters with little armature fights do great but not a majority, I said he needs work! and you agree... my point is lets see what the future holds and stop all this whining, im finally excited about the heavy weight division, lets not ruin it with all this duck bum talk. or maybe u can start training and lets see how far u go in the sport, maybe then u guys will have respect for what ALL these guys do and how hard it is.

Did you not read my post about Jennings? He had less amateur experience than Wilder, started later in the sport and has had, to date, far fewer fights. I'm not saying anything is easy in boxing, because it clearly isn't, but Wilder continually gets given a pass for his lack of schooling and how he's learning on the job etc etc and quite frankly I'm getting a bit sick of it. He's already in his eighth year as a pro, 36 fights under his belt, ranked boxrec #4 and current WBC champion. He's as good as he's ever going to get. Extra rounds can't hurt, but they're not going to substantially change the fighter he is, which is a crude one punch slugger with a jab. There's no way a guy who's learning every fight should look as bad as he did against Szpilka 36 fights into his pro career, I don't care where he came from.

I don't dislike Wilder. I actually find him exciting, with a brash personality and a punch can topple mountains, but I also accept that he just isn't that talented. He can get far in the sport because of his power and physical dimensions, and the fact that when he boxes behind the jab he can keep shorter more static fighters at bay, but what we see now is the finished article. That's it. Fans are still treating him as a prospect and ignoring his failings as something he'll correct in the future. His failings are here to stay, they won't ever be erased. And they'll cost him whenever he steps in the ring with Fury.