Did people forget how bad Wilder looked?

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    #141
    Duhaupas is a bum. End of. A gatekeeper is someone like Dereck Chisora (who would have a damn good chance of beating Wilder imo)

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      #142
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      I suppose then you are including Wilder at that level since he definitely gave him a test?

      That guy would be sparked cold by a Haye or Joshua or Klitschko in 3 rounds or less.
      Of course Fury and Klitschko handle him with ease, but they operate at a higher level than Wilder so that's no surprise. Joshua is still an unknown quantity; maybe he blasts him out, maybe he struggles and raises more questions. I'm not going to make any predictions because that's besides the point; the only thing that matters is the result itself.

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        #143
        Originally posted by Jonty Wilder
        Of course Fury and Klitschko handle him with ease, but they operate at a higher level than Wilder so that's no surprise. Joshua is still an unknown quantity; maybe he blasts him out, maybe he struggles and raises more questions. I'm not going to make any predictions because that's besides the point; the only thing that matters is the result itself.
        That I agree with.

        I think Wilder is a known quantity. He's a very wild, raw yet powerful boxer. Static, but explosive.

        He is what he is and will never be the fighter many want him to be.

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          #144
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          That I agree with.

          I think Wilder is a known quantity. He's a very wild, raw yet powerful boxer. Static, but explosive.

          He is what he is and will never be the fighter many want him to be.
          Wilder's still got a few surprises up his sleeve, I feel. The Stiverne fight changed my mind about how good he really was since I, along with the majority of people on this site, picked Stiverne to take him out in brutal fashion. Since then he's looked poor, but I get the feeling he'll up his game for Povetkin and shock a few more doubters. Or maybe he gets blasted out. I don't know and don't really care so long as the fight gets made and is reasonably exciting and controversy free.

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            #145
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            If you think it's OK that Wilder goes behind on the scorecards to someone of Szpilka's level, then obviously there's a difference in expectations from a heavyweight champion.

            "behind on the scorecards" What the hell were you watching?


            All the judges and everybody sitting at ringside had Wilder ahead at the time of the stoppage. The only people that didn't have him ahead are the Wilder/PBC/Haymon haters here on NSB.

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              #146
              Lets see how bad he looks once hes undisputed heavyweight champion. I think he sparks fury in 8

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                #147
                Originally posted by Santa_
                "behind on the scorecards" What the hell were you watching?


                All the judges and everybody sitting at ringside had Wilder ahead at the time of the stoppage. The only people that didn't have him ahead are the Wilder/PBC/Haymon haters here on NSB.
                And everybody with a brain.

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                  #148
                  People need to stop pointing at the Stiverne win as being something special.

                  Stiverne was never anything but an ok heavyweight with two wins over a poor heavyweight in Chris Areolla, and he was not at 100% in the fight anyway.

                  Since outside of that one fight Wilder has looked like dog crap, that's what he is and we need to start looking at that stiverne fight as the exception rather than the rule.

                  If Wilder fought 3 top 5 fighters, he'd be ko'd at least once

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                    #149
                    Wilder looks like he's built to be a jab like Larry Holmes with more power but instead he holds his hands by his waist. Jabs from the waist and pulls it back to the waist.

                    Povetkin might ice him

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                      #150
                      It's almost as if Wilder doesn't believe a man of his stature can generate power from short(er) shots than he already throws.

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