Tyson Fury: "MMA is for people who can't box!"

[Street]

I have to admit that a man rollinf on the floor with another man between his legs, is not a gentlemans way of fighting.

[Eff Pandas]

I have to admit that a man rollinf on the floor with another man between his legs, is not a gentlemans way of fighting.

Gentlemans way of fighting lol.

I think combat sports across the board are primitive sports that have been humanely toned down in our civilized society but still say "I could kill you if I wanted" & thats at its core is what non-lethal fighting has always been about. And the reality for anyone who's been in a real fight is boxing isn't real fighting. MMA isn't either, but its the closest to real fighting any sport has been able to duplicate.

If you don't like the ground stuff, fair enough, I'm not the biggest fan of ground fighting myself, but you are denying its usefulness in a real fight to make it some gay sorta thing as so many boxing fans & even some MMA fans do.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Boxing is for people that want to "outpoint". Mma is actual fighting

Boxing is filled with tune-ups, dodged opponents, and cherrypicks..

Mma is the exact opposite- fighters actually want to fight the best
Boxing- boxers fight the guy that is the easiest fight

[JACK1190]

I agree. I can't watch that ****e!

[bigfo0t]

Gentlemans way of fighting lol.

I think combat sports across the board are primitive sports that have been humanely toned down in our civilized society but still say "I could kill you if I wanted" & thats at its core is what non-lethal fighting has always been about. And the reality for anyone who's been in a real fight is boxing isn't real fighting. MMA isn't either, but its the closest to real fighting any sport has been able to duplicate.

If you don't like the ground stuff, fair enough, I'm not the biggest fan of ground fighting myself, but you are denying its usefulness in a real fight to make it some gay sorta thing as so many boxing fans & even some MMA fans do.

Well said Panda.

This is just prizefighting, with massive promotional backing behind it. Never know when the next hypejob will be "exposed", but it's different in MMA and I don't think it's fair to call most (if any) of these guys cherry pickers. They don't get to pick and choose (for the most part), take long layoffs to wait someone out, etc. Most actually fight their mandatories, honor their agreements and shlt happens when you actually force the best to fight the best. Kind of reminds of the older days of Boxing before the Diva Generation took over.

I'd bet on a top Muay Thai guy over a Boxer any day in the cage, simply because of versatility. Boxers are used to having more strict rules than MMA fighters, and MMA fighters aren't used to fighting with so many limitations (I foresee many unintentional "fouls" happening in the ring) so It could really go either way if one steps into the other's world. Have you seen some of these Muay Thai guys training? Their shins are like baseball bats, a couple solid low kicks and the Boxer will likely lose his mobility and be a sitting duck, IMO.

[Bullrush]

as much as i love boxing 99x more than mma...
mcgregor could say the vice versa... boxing is for people who cant fight with fewer limitations...

That doesnt even make any sense. Why would you want to do a lot of things average or ok instead of being amazing at one thing? Its because you cant do it. Yes. There are so many ****ing bums in the UFC that cant do anything, they're your average brawler at a strip club. You dont see that **** in boxing, every boxer at that high level (UFC is the best of the best in MMA so lets not compare some beginner in boxing to that) is great at what he does.

Its easier to make money in MMA because a) theres no much competition and b) the sport isnt as evolved, its still pretty new to most people, everybody is getting into it now, the last 5-10 years mostly. Boxing has been around forever, it's as good as it'll ever be. In order to be successful in boxing you have to be perfect at that one thing. In MMA you dont have to be perfect or even good, theres so much **** you can do that a lot of times you win by accident or because a lot of fighters are only good at one thing, so if you match up a BJJ guy and a Thai dude those guys could fight 100 times and both of them might win 50. In boxing if one guy is better he'll usually win every time they face each other.

[Eff Pandas]

He's finally right about something. Boxing requires much more refined skill and therefore much more training. Boxers need about 10 years to compete at the highest levels. MMA fighters about two.

I think this is an apples to oranges comparison due to MMA having lil to no farm system. The amateur boxing farm system to sharpen talent has been around forever & its a clear path to improving your boxing skills.

MMA has no such farm system. There is amateur MMA out there, but its a huge cluster**** of unorganization & seems to be ran largely by people that have made it more comparable to Toughmen contests than people who run amateur boxing.

Most successful MMA artists have equally long periods of training, but due to there being no MMA farm system & MMA still being fairly new in the scheme of things. MMA training tends to start out at similar ages as boxing training starts out around ages 8-14. It just happens to take the form of more public accessible sports that are great core sports for MMA like wrestling, Jiu Jitsu & even boxing (Stipe Miocic, a top ranked UFC fighter, fought Bryant Jennings at the National Golden Gloves back in the day). There are also a lot of people who've had kickboxing, K1 or Muay Thai experience that transition to MMA (& often boxing too).

[Eff Pandas]

MMA fighters aren't used to fighting with so many limitations (I foresee many unintentional "fouls" happening in the ring)

LOL that reminds me the first guy who I was aware of who did MMA & Boxing, he was a journeyman in both sports, but he does have some MMA notoriety in being in UFC 1 is Patrick Smith. He fought on ESPN or USA one time & did a spinning backfist in a boxing match. Ref was none to pleased about that.

Fwiw I've never seen/heard of it being a problem surprisingly outside of Smith. Think I've seen/heard boxers do more kicking (Rid**** Bowe comes to mine) than a MMA or kickboxer in the ring.

[LoadedWraps]

I hope you are not one of those who only like to talk but never been in an actual regular boxing fight or even worse never been in a boxing gym.

I'm a licensed amateur and have been doing this since '06. You must be new here. Stick around and learn something.

[LoadedWraps]

Gentlemans way of fighting lol.

I think combat sports across the board are primitive sports that have been humanely toned down in our civilized society but still say "I could kill you if I wanted" & thats at its core is what non-lethal fighting has always been about. And the reality for anyone who's been in a real fight is boxing isn't real fighting. MMA isn't either, but its the closest to real fighting any sport has been able to duplicate.

If you don't like the ground stuff, fair enough, I'm not the biggest fan of ground fighting myself, but you are denying its usefulness in a real fight to make it some gay sorta thing as so many boxing fans & even some MMA fans do.

Boxing is for people that want to "outpoint". Mma is actual fighting

Boxing is filled with tune-ups, dodged opponents, and cherrypicks..

Mma is the exact opposite- fighters actually want to fight the best
Boxing- boxers fight the guy that is the easiest fight

You are both right, and wrong at the same time.

I don't want to derail the thread, but being in the military, I was exposed to all 3: mma, boxing, and real combat, and not only are all useful in their own right in a real fight to the death, but boxing was proven more useful in my case than any mma technique, mainly because I was already an active boxer and had enough in my arsenal to make it work. We were taught mma oriented self defense techniques as a standard, but after training with weapons like knives, I found boxing elements much more successful in real world scenarios than closing the distance to go to the ground or subdue. The point is, both are sports, and being sports both have rules and limitations as standards to make competition fair, so so fighters aren't "one and done" like a dog fight could be. Don't confuse that with assuming you can't apply boxing or mma to real life and death struggles, or even bar fights, you just need to remember that those same rules don't apply. If you are in a street fight and you expect the other guy to not kick you in the balls or bite you if he can't stop you from slugging him, you are naive and will get a rude awakening, or worse. On the other hand, as an adept boxer, if you flick a hard jab out to bloody his nose before you come over the top with a broken bottle and slice open his face, now you are being resourceful, and doing what you have to do to walk away alive.