Comments Thread For: Golovkin vs. Saunders Negotiations To Move Forward

[285Kid]

Why would Jacobs,Johnson or Lara get $3 millon they don;t have the WBO or WBC belt that GGG need

[kafkod]

As far as standing in the division, Jacobs and Saunders are pretty much equals. So a fight against either does about the same for GGG. And that's not much.

Problem is, neither wants to fight GGG. And personally, him chasing them is completely bass ackwards. He can offer them a fight. If they say no, no sweat off his back. He's the champ.

Beating Saunders does a lot more for GGG than beating Jacobs because it gets him another world title belt.

You may not think that matters, but trust me, it does.

[SkillspayBills]

Sanders has some skills, not bad at all but he gets clobbered and stopped by GGG. Just not the same league. Nothing against Sanders, he did everyone a favor and beat that overrated clown Lee. But he is just not anything for GGG.

He did the exact opposite actually. It was almost guaranteed Lee was fighting a unification fight next, whether that be Danny Jacobs or GGG, instead of the possible hostage situation we are going to get with BJS.

[hitking]

You and everyone else regurgitating this garbage DKSAB!!

Hmmm, so exactly what seperates Saunders and Jacobs as far as standing in the division ole wise one???

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Beating Saunders does a lot more for GGG than beating Jacobs because it gets him another world title belt.

You may not think that matters, but trust me, it does.

Right, just like the world stopped to see GGG win Lemieux's belt.

The fact is, Quillen and Lee fought to a draw and were kinda the top dawgs not named GGG in the division. Jacobs convincingly beat Quillen. Saunders convincingly beat Lee. If you wanna argue that Saunders has the nod over Jacobs because he's unbeaten and Danny has been KO'd. Fine. But the notion that beating Saunders more because he beat Lee, who won a belt vacated by Quillen, who Lee fought to a draw, and Jacobs just destroyed in one round is completely ridiculous.

[ИATAS]

Right, just like the world stopped to see GGG win Lemieux's belt.

The fact is, Quillen and Lee fought to a draw and were kinda the top dawgs not named GGG in the division. Jacobs convincingly beat Quillen. Saunders convincingly beat Lee. If you wanna argue that Saunders has the nod over Jacobs because he's unbeaten and Danny has been KO'd. Fine. But the notion that beating Saunders more because he beat Lee, who won a belt vacated by Quillen, who Lee fought to a draw, and Jacobs just destroyed in one round is completely ridiculous.

That's one hell of a triangle theory.

Beating Saunders would give Golovkin three out of the four belts, which can be used at the negotiating table with Canelo, and maybe more importantly it's one step closer to becoming the true unified middleweight champion. Jacobs would be a good fight too but Golovkin would still have his mandatory obligation.

Regarding the money it was pounds not dollars. They offered considerably more than $2 million dollars. BJS originally said he would only fight GGG for £4 million pounds. Sources are saying K2 offered over $3 million dollars.

[kafkod]

Right, just like the world stopped to see GGG win Lemieux's belt.

The fact is, Quillen and Lee fought to a draw and were kinda the top dawgs not named GGG in the division. Jacobs convincingly beat Quillen. Saunders convincingly beat Lee. If you wanna argue that Saunders has the nod over Jacobs because he's unbeaten and Danny has been KO'd. Fine. But the notion that beating Saunders more because he beat Lee, who won a belt vacated by Quillen, who Lee fought to a draw, and Jacobs just destroyed in one round is completely ridiculous.

GGG vs Lemieux may not have done a lot on HBO PPV, but it was screened and watched by millions all over the world.

World titles matter to fans, so they matter to boxers and promoters. That's why Cotto paid GGG to step aside so he could fight Canelo without losing the WBC. That's why Canelo is doing everything he can to hold on to his belt now.

The issue isn't whether Saunders is better than Jacobs, or Jacobs better than BJS. What matters is that GGG already has the WBA super belt, so Jacobs wouldn't be a unification for him. BJS would, because he has the WBO title.

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That's one hell of a triangle theory.

Beating Saunders would give Golovkin three out of the four belts, which can be used at the negotiating table with Canelo, and maybe more importantly it's one step closer to becoming the true unified middleweight champion. Jacobs would be a good fight too but Golovkin would still have his mandatory obligation.

Regarding the money it was pounds not dollars. They offered considerably more than $2 million dollars. BJS originally said he wanted £4 million pounds. Sources are saying K2 offered over $3 million dollars.

Maybe on planet GGG. But pretty much everyone outside the 97K already consider GGG the universally recognized, undisputed, or whatever other goofy name you wanna throw out there king of the middleweights. And beating up a couple B class paper beltholders ain't gonna amount to anything.

As for it improving his negotiating power with Canelo. OK.

[ИATAS]

Maybe on planet GGG. But pretty much everyone outside the 97K already consider GGG the universally recognized, undisputed, or whatever other goofy name you wanna throw out there king of the middleweights. And beating up a couple B class paper beltholders ain't gonna amount to anything.

As for it improving his negotiating power with Canelo. OK.

He's considered the best but until he actually accomplishes it that doesn't mean anything. Very few fighters in the history of the sport have unified all four belts, five with the ring. Bernard Hopkins and a couple of others, that's it. If you have an opportunity to do that you take it. What's the worse that can happen? BJS says no? Ok.

You left out my part about his mandatory too. The only way Golovkin can get around fighting his mandatory in Johnson soon is by having a unification fight. The two other title holders are Canelo and BJS. Thus the reason they are trying to get BJS. Even if Jacobs wanted a fight right now, and we can pretend there is no issue with HBO/PBC/Haymon for sake of argument, it's not a unification since the IBF doesn't recognize the "regular" title they only recognize Gennady's super title, so he would still have his mandatory obligation. Drop the belt or get stripped of the belt and fight Jacobs you say? Then that means Golovkin would go from potentially owning three of the four belts to only owning one belt. That's the same amount of belts BJS has and the same amount as Canelo, less then Canelo if you count the Ring. Then what? He losses negotiating power at the table with Canelo and in fact, what would stop Canelo from wanting to unify with Saunders himself? Canelo could easily take a Saunders fight, win and have two belts himself, three counting the Ring. How's that looking for Gennady now? Not too good I bet. You never want to go from possibly owning three belts in a division to one belt, you just don't do that type of thing unless you are a Mayweather or a Pacquiao type of star which Golovkin is not.

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GGG vs Lemieux may not have done a lot on HBO PPV, but it was screened and watched by millions all over the world.

World titles matter to fans, so they matter to boxers and promoters. That's why Cotto paid GGG to step aside so he could fight Canelo without losing the WBC. That's why Canelo is doing everything he can to hold on to his belt now.

The issue isn't whether Saunders is better than Jacobs, or Jacobs better than BJS. What matters is that GGG already has the WBA super belt, so Jacobs wouldn't be a unification for him. BJS would, because he has the WBO title.

You would be surprised at how little belts mean to seasoned fight fans. You, and a loyd portion of GGG's fanbase appear to follow boxing the way fans followed folks followed the sport in the 80s and 90s. The fact is, the ABC organizations have become so corrupt, and their rankings and rulings are so laughable that IMO its borderline impossible for a true fight fan to take them seriously.

You don't like nor agree with my opinions and that's fine. But believe it or not, I give GGG a helluva lot more respect than even his most diehard fans. Y'all want this dude to chase and validate what he already is. GGG is the undisputed king of the middleweights. And it should be beneath him to chase a guy like Saunders, who's a mere contender to his throne. Canelo makes sense because of money. Saunders should be begging GGG for a shot, not visa versa. GGG's supremacy at 60 is established. Its time for bigger and better.