how is come Leo Santa Cruz not in Rings Magazine/ESPN top 10 P4P list

[DreamerUSA]

Abner Mares is better then anyone on GGG's and Crawfords resume.

I'll give you GGG, but Gamboa is better than anyone on GGG or LSC's resume, combined.

His resume is far better then GGG's man..if he doesnt deserve to be on there then nor does GGG or Crawford

If resume was the only consideration you would be correct, but it is'nt.

[Fetta]

I say sure why not..put him on there!!

[deanrw]

If I wanted to make a P4P list for the PBC group alone, it would not be easy. It would be cloudy as many of what I consider their better fighters, are still in the prospect stage. It is still somewhat cloudy.

2016 will hopefully clear it up. Porter vs Thurman is a good start. Also we got many at 147-154 there who have to fight each other to step out of the prospect area and into a space where they will get true recognition.

For now though, it just feels like so many of them are being held back. They certainly have some great talent in there, but they need to put it to work.

[Larry the boss]

LSC is a three division champion but what does that even mean? Did he beat the best fighters in his divisions? No, we already know he turned down Rigondeaux and didn't attempt to fight top guys.

He won a vacant 118 pound belt against 20-3-1 Vusi Malinga. Who sucks and was KOd in one round by Hozumi Hasegawa just a couple fights before and since has lost three more fights.

He won a vacant 122 pound belt against 36-4 Alexander Munoz. Who had just lost to Koki Kameda.

He won a vacant 126 pound belt against Abner Mares. His best win which to me isn't that impressive since Mares hasn't looked nearly as good as he did before he moved up in weight.

That's three vacant titles. Looks like the Adrien Broner blueprint but worse (at least DeMarco was a legit champion). He didn't fight the best. He didn't dominate any division and he admittedly avoided top fighters. Why on earth should he be ranked highly?




Is that the only criteria now to determine who would win a fight, resume? Donaire beat better fighters than Rigondeaux and had a better resume, did that mean Donaire beat Rigondeaux? Of course not. Just watch LSC fight and compare that to Golovkin. Who's the better fighter? If your say LSC you're lying to yourself and you know it. Besides, LSC doesn't have some amazing resume here, he beat Abner Mares big deal, Mares hasn't been the same guy since moving up in weight, which was pretty obvious when he got KOd in one round. What else has he done, won some vacant titles because he has a manager powerful enough to line them up? I'm sorry I'm not impressed and fighters who avoid the top fighters in the division should not be praised or rewarded. That should count against them.

Now list all the vacant titles GGG won

[just the facts]

To answer TS question Crawford and GGG are a notch above LSC in terms of skill, power, speed, technique, and intangibles.

In g strings case (Crawford too a lesser degree) all this speed, power., skill and technique were on display vs MUCH lesser opposition than the fighters on LSCs resume

[Larry the boss]

NATAS wins again.

While Larry is still whining about Pascal not realizing there's noone in LHW that wants to fight Kov.

Damn lie........

[just the facts]

but look how long it took him to fight mares? aside from that his resume is hot garbage. he'll get smoked against frampton or quigg.

And both of their resumes are hot garbage. I doubt if either could beat LSC. Neither has the work rate to keep up or the power to slow LSC down

[Larry the boss]

because he's black

How many alts do you have freedom?

[KillaMane26]

Wait yall think Mares is better than Beating undefeated Gamboa? yall bugging

[bigjavi973]

because he's black

****** fuck