how is come Leo Santa Cruz not in Rings Magazine/ESPN top 10 P4P list

[Szef]

Why would you say that? he has fought and beaten better competition and proved his worth

Because I have eyes.

P4P lists are subjective, anyway.

[Szef]

LSC has proven his skills against world class comp while moving up in weight....GGG has not...and he is only 27....id go with LSC

You must be trolliing

He had a chance to prove his skills when he fought that part time boxer on the Floyd - Pac undercard. How did that go?

[The Ninth Layer]

Why would you say that? he has fought and beaten better competition and proved his worth

His best win is a guy who got knocked out in one round.

How many posters here could name five fighters Cruz has faced without looking it up on boxrec? And you say he's fought better competition?

[-Kev-]

I don't think LSC is one of the top 10 best fighters in the sport, but neither are a few other guys on the list. It's a valid question because the level of opposition LSC has faced is similar, or better than some of the guys resume on the list. Danny Garcia is another guy with better win/names on his resume than some guys on the list. It's not a black thing, more like a blacklist, a blacklist of Haymon fighters.

[Larry the boss]

I don't think LSC is one of the top 10 best fighters in the sport, but neither are a few other guys on the list. It's a valid question because the level of opposition LSC has faced is similar, or better than some of the guys resume on the list. Danny Garcia is another guy with better win/names on his resume than some guys on the list. It's not a black thing, more like a blacklist, a blacklist of Haymon fighters.

Thats all i am saying great post

[GOT BEEF?]

but look how long it took him to fight mares? aside from that his resume is hot garbage. he'll get smoked against frampton or quigg.

[lopetego]

Abner Mares is better then anyone on GGG's and Crawfords resume

Current Mares is a nobody.

He hasn't done jack **** since Gonzalez destroyed him. Mares is finished. kaput. done. Gonzalez ate his soul and he was never the same

Leo Santa Duck needs to fight a decent opponent, he's giving the mexicans a bad name with his relentless ducking

[spanishboxing]

Leo Santa Cruz is Undefeated 3 division world champion and has a win over a star opponent in Abner Mares....


Leo Santa Cruz record sh!+ all over Golovkin & Bud Crawford records....

Leo santa cruz is a smaller version of Chávez jr. ...Mares isn't that good .overrated just like Leo. ..all he does he low blow fighters..da man is fighting cab drivers. .just bc he fought Mares n beat him doesn't make him p4p ..he a fckin bum. .one dimensional fighter. .some say he a exciting fighter. .imo he's not...he looks good vs stationary targets. .n most are stationary cab drivers..

[Larry the boss]

but look how long it took him to fight mares? aside from that his resume is hot garbage. he'll get smoked against frampton or quigg.

And GGG has fought who Freedom?

[Larry the boss]

Current Mares is a nobody.

He hasn't done jack **** since Gonzalez destroyed him. Mares is finished. kaput. done. Gonzalez ate his soul and he was never the same

Leo Santa Duck needs to fight a decent opponent, he's giving the mexicans a bad name with his relentless ducking

meanwhile Kovalev is fighting Pascal again for some reason