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  • The Akbar One
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    #51
    Originally posted by daggum
    so basically what you are saying is that if ggg beats a couple good fighters he's allowed to duck like floyd did? i understand the floyd mindset perfectly now. thanks for the insight.
    Your hatred of Mayweather either blinds your judgment, or you just don't know **** about boxing. My point was that if you look at Mayweather's first 34 opponents, and compare them to Golovkin's, it is 180 degrees different. Mayweather fought a whole slew of top contenders and tough fights through 34 fights. He had people to fight, and he fought them. Sure it isn't Golovkin's fault that his division sucks, and that his fan boys over hype bums he beats to try and make him seem more relevant. Fact is though that, a solid top 10 guy like Angel Manfredy, who could beat other contenders, but never beat the top level guys, is comparatively for the weight class, a much better win than the Lemeauxs, Stevens, Monroes, etc. on Golovkin's resume. Plenty of the contenders and titlists that Mayweather beat through 34 fights, would be contenders or titlists in other boxing eras. Looking at Golovkin's resume. You can't say the same thing. His best opponents, guys like Murray, Geale, and the Macklin he fought wouldn't be a top 10 guys in most other boxing eras.

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      #52
      How does what you posted even make sense?

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        #53
        Originally posted by lopetego
        Floyd ducked the dangerous Margo to fight an utterly easy fight in Baldomir

        Nobody wanted to see that garbage Floyd-Baldomir

        just like nobody wanted to see Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana or Berto

        but that's Floyd for you, taking the path of least resistance as usual, **** what the fans want


        Macklin and Lemieux were top welters no matter how you look at it

        but ofc, for the GGG haters (a fine pack of racists and/or biased nostalgists all of them) everyone GGG fights is a bum. If Floyd or Ward were defeated by GGG, they'd be calling them bums too, claiming they were past their prime, thus the reason they lost to GGG.
        Hold up what???? Monroe and Macklin were good fights...but Ortiz,Maidana,Guerrero,Berto arnt??? all 4 have better resumes and 2 were current champions

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          #54
          Originally posted by lopetego
          You *****s get your mouth full claiming Floyd fought ¨world champions¨, as if having a paper belt in this era with dozens of trinkets per division suddenly increased your value as a fighter

          It's WHO you beat and WHEN you beat them what counts

          Baldomir was a chump who got his 10 minutes of fame after beating overrated Judah and nothing more. Margo was the real challenge, the actually interesting fight and Floyd ducked him

          Guerrero, a bloated featherweight who hasn't done jack **** at ww, getting a shot just for beating a past prime Berto and getting an ¨interim belt¨. dont give me the ¨he was Floyd's mandatory¨ crap. As if Floyd ever cared about such things. but when Pac was mandatory ¨belts dont make me¨, or when Thurman was mandatory for 2 years *cricket chirps*
          Floyd fought this bum because it was an easy fight, he was getting 30 mill guaranteed anyway so who cares.

          Berto, shot to ****, with back to back loses against C levels Bumrrero and (shot) Soto Karass. you floydiots act as if it was the same undefeated Berto that Ortiz fought. and even then, it wouldn't have been a match people wanted to see. Floyd ducked Pacquiao to fight glass brained Ortiz, in another match nobody wanted to see

          GGG is fighting TOP mws in their PRIME and effortlessly DESTROYING them. that's what irks you.
          No way you can twist it son...Monroe nor Macklin were better then any fighter you just listed for Mayweather

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            #55
            Originally posted by PBP.
            There's levels to this ****. GGGs name doesn't belong in the same sentence as ATG fighters.
            how so? he's already a legit hof'er and while he's par for the course on the road to atg status. the problem is no one wants to step up to fight him, even the so called 'elite' ones. you guys just use the fact that everyone's avoiding him to call him a bum with no elite wins.

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              #56
              Originally posted by HanzGruber
              Maidana Ortiz berto and Guerrero were all more accomplished than macklin and lemeuix lol. How can you praise them then shlt on world champions that Floyd fought? Baldomir was lineal.. Nobody wanted to see that but ggg fought lemeuix all hail ggg! Where's the logic

              Floyd didn't duck marg. He wanted more money arum said no. So he left top rank and became the cash cow
              it seems like Floyd wanted more everytime he don't want to make fight happened.

              he left top rank when he don't want to fight Marg and also threatened to leave haymon and go with don king when they forced him to fight Pac some years ago, you remember that. Don king Floyd and a lobster. LOL

              he never wanted more when he fought Guerrero, Maidana, and Berto.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                If GGG was hated he would be crushing his PPV numbers. He's a really good MW fighter. And by the way there's nothing wrong with that.
                he is hated, but only by one particular demographic...

                that is the mayweather/haymon fanboy crew. why they hate him so much, i honestly couldn't tell you.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  How does what you posted even make sense?
                  because people say that every move mayweather made was calculated and 'smart business' but when golovkin tries to stay within his own weight class trying to unify the belts against a hugely popular canelo, he gets criticized for not fighting ward. how come only floyd can make smart bidness moves?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Rath
                    it seems like Floyd wanted more everytime he don't want to make fight happened.

                    he left top rank when he don't want to fight Marg and also threatened to leave haymon and go with don king when they forced him to fight Pac some years ago, you remember that. Don king Floyd and a lobster. LOL

                    he never wanted more when he fought Guerrero, Maidana, and Berto.
                    Not even gonna start with your dumb ass lol. Why would he want more when he had a guaranteed deal with showtime? Ghost was the first fight on that deal what "more" is he supposed to ask for

                    There's a reason daggum stopped posting itt, cause he got proven wrong and doesn't have the sack to admit it

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by moonboxer86
                      he is hated, but only by one particular demographic...

                      that is the mayweather/haymon fanboy crew. why they hate him so much, i honestly couldn't tell you.
                      anybody who is a threat to floyd's popularity is hated by genius floyd fans.

                      they never hate marquez, guerrero, ortiz, berto, cotto, canelo etc..

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