how come floyd avoiding margs for baldomir was a smart business move but ggg cant...

[Rath]

Are you really going to have a debate with this OBVIOUS troll? His hypocrisy knows no bounds man smh

don't want to debate or can't debate?

is this a troll question, how come when Floyd don't want to fight someone he has a lot of demands?

what were his demands with hatton?

what were his demands with mosley?

what were his demands with marquez?

they were all fights before the guaranteed purse.

what were his demands with Marg?

what were his demands with Pac 6 yrs ago.

see the similarities and the difference?

troll you say.

genius floyd fan like you when can no longer argue/discuss/or debate and is being exposed for the genius that you are calls me troll.

your avi says you are a genius serious poster.

hey mr not troll now answer the question, why did Floyd not fight marg?

[-PBP-]

how so? he's already a legit hof'er and while he's par for the course on the road to atg status. the problem is no one wants to step up to fight him, even the so called 'elite' ones. you guys just use the fact that everyone's avoiding him to call him a bum with no elite wins.

Floyd was avoided too. So he moved up and chased the big fights.

[therealpugilist]

...continue to rack up wins in his own weight class and try to unify in a huge mega-fight against a popular ppv fighter in canelo? (which would do solid numbers on ppv btw)

why are certain critics making such a big deal that he didn't move to 168 where the talent pool is weak to begin with? who could ggg fight at 168 that would get it's own ppv? even if ward's irrelevant ass was still in that weight class (which he isn't), it still wouldn't generate as much buzz as a fight against canelo. no one outside of hardcore boxing fans and swag happy hipsters from oakland even know who he is.

Margarito held the WBO trinket.....Mayweather beat the last 2 undisputed welterweight champions in succession....Zab Judah, then beat Baldomir for the title, and in his very next fight, he fought DLH and Hatton at the end of the year

Meanwhile Margarito had no significant victories or titles to earn a shot, he lost to a prospect who had no previous wins over a top ten opponent. Paul Williams....He killed any momentum for a shot losing to a prospect that year and ODLH is definitely better and more dangerous than Margarito....its kinda ******ed to think Mayweather ducked Margarito when he was fighting better and more accomplished fighters

as far as GGG and ward, the only people complaining about things outside the ring are GGG fanatics. A real boxing fan dont care about venue, money, or buzz. they just want to see the fights.

I dont think they believe he can beat Ward. IMO Ward is just better, does most things better and is the bigger guy. Fight wouldnt even be close.


This is peoples issue with GGG and the people pumping him up. Guys like Mayweather, Pacquaio, ODLH, Roy Jones, and yes Andre Ward actually had to fight elite fighters to EARN a place in the p4p rankings, recieve exposure, etc.....GGG has done little to nothing on the Elite level and has a tone of hype....

for all the complaints about Mayweather and who he fought, If you look up his resume, by his 34th fight he was a 2 divison lineal champion, 11 defenses and won a 3 divisonal title vs Gatti....Mayweather had a better resume than GGG by the time he was 24-25


people said he ducked this person and that but his resume says otherwise considering he fought in 5 weight classes and fought the top 1-3 guys in 4 out of 5 divisons.




People want to see him fight someone with a chance, and not rack up ko wins over no hopers


160 isnt deep but he isnt a top ten p4p guy because he hasnt faced the competition to earn it......there are elite fighters from 160-168....he can go fight Jack, DeGale, Abraham, Groves, Jacobs, Saunders, Quillin and Lee...he has options....he has to earn his place, not get elevated, like how he won his WBA belt lol

[therealpugilist]

Floyd was avoided too. So he moved up and chased the big fights.

exactly....too bad the newbies werent even following boxing then


Mayweather was calling out Kostya Tsyzu(140), Acelino Freitas(130), Casamayor(130), Juan Lazcano(135)

for some reason they never happened so he moved up and beat better fighters than all 4 guys


People say Mayweather ducked challenges, but his resume says otherwise.

Its funny cause the people they say he ducked certain fighters, but he beat and fought better fighters than the ones he is accused of ducking.



I never got the thing with Margarito....he wasnt that good...lost to every elite fighter he shared the ring with....Pac, Cotto, and Mosley and couldnt even get by Daniel Santos in two tries....they need to let that Margarito was a beast myth die....He was a good fighter, with rudimentary skill, but a ton of heart, chin and stamina.

[OnePunch]

Well now it's not an issue cause canelo is right around the corner and ward moved up. But he went from mr 154-168 to 160-164 real quick. That's why people were mad

no, only idiots like you were mad.

Any REASONABLE person knows that just because a fighter (or in this case the trainer) believes his fighter can beat anyone from 154-168, that doesnt automatically mean EVERY FIGHT between 154-168 is even makeable in the first place.

[OnePunch]

Because just like Arum is keeping things In House right now, he did not want to work with Oscar De La Hoya who recently left him at the time and I also think had a ongoing Lawsuit against him at that time

He did not avoid, he made a decision that looking back at it now was the RIGHT DECISION and that was buying himself out of his deal from Arum and going on to make a Historic Fight with Oscar De La Hoya

Margarito wasn't offered UNTIL Mayweather started asking about the De La Hoya fight and more Money

So if you want to compare GGG situation to Mayweather, Mayweather WENT UP for Oscar so are you saying like Mayweather did, GGG should MOVE UP and fight Ward because that is basically the same scenario

It not the same scenario, because I dont recall Oscar saying "I need tune ups first but but but next year doe"......

[sicko]

It not the same scenario, because I dont recall Oscar saying "I need tune ups first but but but next year doe"......

WTF?...I don't get it?

[OnePunch]

WTF?...I don't get it?

you cant compare 2 scenarios that are nothing alike.

Floyd was able to move up and fight Oscar, because Oscar was actually willing to fight him. Had Oscar said "nope sorry I need tune ups first lets fight maybe next year sometime", then just like GGG did, Floyd would have disregarded the offer and moved on in life.....

[GOT BEEF?]

Floyd was avoided too. So he moved up and chased the big fights.

ggg is canelo's mandatory....

they are bound to clash, unless canelo willingly gives up the title..

[Larry the boss]

ggg is canelo's mandatory....

they are bound to clash, unless canelo willingly gives up the title..

Better question is why did you say you were leaving this site but make an Alt Freedom?