Andre ward vs joe Calzaghe

[ИATAS]

That's not the point though mate.

In 2008, Kelly was big news.

In 2006, Bika was a nobody.

He said he didn't want Kelly because he'd done nothing to warrant a fight and he didn't excite him.

He also said the same about Tarver and Dawson.

Again, look at some of the guys he fought?

Look at his 16 voluntary defences of his WBO belt.

Also, what he said about Kelly was bizarre. Because in the same interview, he admitted that he'd tried to fight Kelly in 2006 directly after he'd beaten Lacy.

So:

What was he doing trying to fight an unknown NABF, MW champ in 2006?

If Kelly had done nothing to warrant a fight in 2008, what had he done 2 years earlier?

These threads are fun to debate. But what I've typed above tells me that he'd never have fought Andre.

Absolutely correct. Hell, he couldn't even get himself to fight Glen Johnson! He pulled out there separate times. Some may wonder, why be afraid of Glen Johnson? Well at the time, he won fighter of the year, beating Tarver and knocking out Roy Jones, the man Calzaghe thought was the greatest ever. He didn't want the fight.

Calzaghe lacked confidence in himself, big time. He admits that later in his retirement. He nearly passed out before the Jeff Lacy fight, having a severe panic attack.

He was a talented fighter but he was scared to test himself, and only really did towards the very end with Kessler and Hopkins later. The Hopkins fight is pretty much all one needs to know about to determine who would win between him and Ward. Hopkins had him looking like an amateur at times but Hopkins low work rate was the reason the judges scored it for Calzaghe, which was the case of Hopkins as he got older, especially 40 and above. Andre Ward is a similar fighter to the older Hopkins except that he's obviously youthful and doesn't need to pace a 43 year old body. Ward absolutely wins this fight.

[-Antonio-]

This is the hardest fight to call for Calzaghe. I think he would have beaten guys like Golovkin and Froch easily and gotten destroyed by Kovalev. Ward is a guy I could see beating Calzaghe by constantly hitting and holding, so Joe couldn't get his combinations off.

I'd lean towards Ward beating him. That style is one I'm not sure Calzaghe would have success against. Ward is actually better than Hopkins at that rough house inside fighting.

[robertzimmerman]

aldo5408,

You guys got any links

1999:

"I'm not chasing after Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter and I don't want tough fights, I just want big money."

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Boxing...he.-a060444934




2003:

"I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown ***els I wouldn't want to risk it."

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-am-the-best-says-honest-joe-6352495.html

2007:

"I have no interest anymore in Roy Jones and no interest in Antonio Tarver. Jones is washed up and Tarver was never that good anyway, he just caught Jones when he was shot and Johnson did the same."

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GD6dlJDc8SkC&pg=PA300&lpg=PA300&dq=no+ordinary+joe+roy+jones+tarver+johnson&source=bl&ots=PiNoLLZjwq&sig=POSEcgw-SWXxsQI9oSOAGZsCHG8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN25C5zo3OAhXMKcAKHUbpDmoQ6AEIGzAA

2008:

"I knew for definite that by the time I got back, I'd be reading many observers saying that Jones is finished. I totally disagree. Roy gave me a really tough fight, still has exceptionally fast hands and would have been a match for many, many great fighters. But he met the best of Joe Calzaghe."

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/3848435.JOE_CALZAGHE_SAYS__Jones_fight_one_of_my_best/

[aldo5408]

aldo5408,





1999:


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Boxing...he.-a060444934




2003:

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-am-the-best-says-honest-joe-6352495.html

2007:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GD6dlJDc8SkC&pg=PA300&lpg=PA300&dq=no+ordinary+joe+roy+jones+tarver+johnson&source=bl&ots=PiNoLLZjwq&sig=POSEcgw-SWXxsQI9oSOAGZsCHG8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN25C5zo3OAhXMKcAKHUbpDmoQ6AEIGzAA

2008:



http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/spo...ne_of_my_best/

Good post you probably have to wait until tomorrow for the posters to reply back

[robertzimmerman]

Good post you probably have to wait until tomorrow for the posters to reply back

Thanks.

What do you think of the links?

You can see why he received criticism throughout his career.

[PivotandRoll]

Thanks.

What do think of the links?

You can see why he received criticism throughout his career.

That's pretty damning. But just because he didn't believe in himself doesn't mean I don't. The Calzaghe that beat Kessler is better than any Ward I've ever seen against a better fighter Ward has ever fought(Kessler while still great was past his best when Ward fought him).

[aldo5408]

Thanks.

What do think of the links?

You can see why he received criticism throughout his career.

Yeah bro. I saw the links. Can't say I'm suprised as it is a fact that the UK breeds cowards

[Madison Boxing]

Calzaghe on points, close but clear decision.

[aldo5408]

Calzaghe on points, close but clear decision.

Hey bro I disagree with your post.but green k sent

[aldo5408]

Looks like the majority thinks Joe boxes circles around ward