Al Haymon/PBC are doing their fighters a grave disservice.

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  • daggum
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    #21
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
    No Haymon is the king of elite network business via Broadcasting. The reason he can't be apart of what you normally see in boxing promotions is because of the Ali Act. If you think Producers can just afford Primetime slots practically then that's funny.
    i know what haymon is doing is illegal and that's why he refuses to be seen/say anything but other people don't realize it. his whole empire is built on illegal activity but he's cleaning up boxing. that is what is funny.

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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      i know what haymon is doing is illegal and that's why he refuses to be seen/say anything but other people don't realize it. his whole empire is built on illegal activity but he's cleaning up boxing. that is what is funny.
      How so? Share.

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        #23
        Originally posted by daggum
        but he doesn't answer any questions about how he runs his business or why he does certain things, etc...he's scared to death of criticism it seems. putting lara in the middle of nowhere in front of empty arenas, making comical matchups, giving away thousands of tickets, turning down career high paydays for his fighters even though he's supposed to do what is best for them. he doesn't want to be criticized so he hides. no accountability. the pbc motto
        Like I said previously I really don't care for the showbiz side that some are looking back for, whether his fighters fight at empty arena or whatnot is between him, his fighters and his accountant, giving away free tickets? I guess he would be the only one to ever do that in boxing, he has zero accountability to anyone apart from his fighters, I really don't see the need to hear from him and I hope the future of boxing would be just like that... When the focus is only the boxers, not the managers, not the promoters not the brought media.... Just the fighters, the only time I want to hear about accountability is when either managers or promoters of boxing are exploiting them... Then they need to be held accountable.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Ray*
          That's the way I feel about this whole thing, I don't need the media to tell me a promoters intentions, I can read between the lines. All that spin doctor sh3t should be left alone to Politicians or the Bob Arum of these world. Boxing is going to a new era when all these old farts are long gone and what we don't need is the old school way of buying the media.
          I get what you're saying but PBC is trying to appeal to a broader audience than people like us who follow the sport. When casual fans want to know more about the sport they're going to look to ESPN, SI, Yahoo Sports.

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            #25
            The problem is the job you describing is called a promoter. Haymon is not a promoter and is in court denying he's one. So you want him to hire someone to basically do the job of a promoter on PBC behalf? Sure that will play out well in court. LMAO
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 12-31-2015, 03:41 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by daggum
              i know what haymon is doing is illegal and that's why he refuses to be seen/say anything but other people don't realize it. his whole empire is built on illegal activity but he's cleaning up boxing. that is what is funny.
              Tbh dude, how do you even come up with this stuff?! Don't follow tacky rumor trends...

              PBC, logistically, has taken years to gather infrastructure for broadcasting logistics with other networks which was extremely expensive. The amount of money put into PBC would scare most promoters as they could only wish to have done something of that magnitude..and only envy Haymon. This is why you have traditional industry people, like promoters, stir jealously and EFFORTS against Haymon's success with court ventures. Haymon is not a promoter, that's the verbatim they want the general boxing fan to believe, but Haymon NOW is an Advisor, but more importantly and technically a Producer for his PBC. "Signed" to Haymon meaning boxers agreeing to a program without any affiliation to contract, unless a boxing promoter approves a deal. That's all it is. Not hard to understand.

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                #27
                whats the solution?????

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  The problem is the job you describing is called a promoter. Haymon is not a promoter and is in court denying he's one. So you want him to hire someone to basically do the job of a promoter on PBC behalf? Sure that will play out well in court. LMAO
                  yes that's why he hides. its funny people give him all the credit for setting up fights but then they say he's not a promoter. if you check the language in his contracts he clearly is acting as a promoter. he can refuse any fight that his client is offered so essentially he controls them through fight manipulation using their own promoters to make them do what he wants. its a simple shell game that he's playing. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
                  Last edited by daggum; 12-31-2015, 03:55 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    yes that's why he hides. its funny people give him all the credit for setting up fights but then they say he's not a promoter. if you check the language in his contracts he clearly is acting as a promoter. he can refuse any fight that his client is offered so essentially he controls them through fight manipulation using their own promoters to make them do what he wants. its a simple shell game that he's playing. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
                    If boxing wants proper regulation its best it adheres to other well known American sports. Do you guys hear of an NFL season saying it doesn't 'promote?' Promote what? A sports season for sports programing?


                    The Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act, commonly referred to as the Ali Act, is a federal law that was introduced in 1999 and enacted on May 26, 2000 by the 106th Congress to:

                    1.) protect the rights and welfare of boxers 2.) aid state boxing commissions with the oversight of boxing and
                    3.) increase sportsmanship and integrity within the boxing industry (See 114 Stat. 321(3) (2000) ). The Act amends the 1996 Professional Boxing Safety Act by expanding upon legislature against exploitation, conflict of interest, enforcement, and as well as additional *********s.[1] The Act was enacted in response to widespread abuse of boxers by means of exploitation, rigged rankings, and rigged matches.[2]

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                      If boxing wants proper regulation its best it adheres to other well known American sports. Do you guys hear of an NFL season saying it doesn't 'promote?' Promote what? A sports season for sports programing?


                      The Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act, commonly referred to as the Ali Act, is a federal law that was introduced in 1999 and enacted on May 26, 2000 by the 106th Congress to:

                      1.) protect the rights and welfare of boxers 2.) aid state boxing commissions with the oversight of boxing and
                      3.) increase sportsmanship and integrity within the boxing industry (See 114 Stat. 321(3) (2000) ). The Act amends the 1996 Professional Boxing Safety Act by expanding upon legislature against exploitation, conflict of interest, enforcement, and as well as additional *********s.[1] The Act was enacted in response to widespread abuse of boxers by means of exploitation, rigged rankings, and rigged matches.[2]
                      there you go. a manager having control over which fights his promoter can make is clearly a conflict of interest.

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