Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr. on Roach Admitting Floyd Jr. is The Era's Best

[lopez12]

a poll on a website where most the people on this site didnt even watch boxing pre 2010 isnt saying much


Polls on this site mean as much as a wooden nickle in a corner store...nothing


Ive been a boxing fan my entire life, read up on the history of the sport, fighters, techniques daily, have boxed and have trained fighters, clients and friends

I do my own research and form my own opinions, and that is the problem with a lot of these bandwagon jumpers and nut huggers on this site


I can support my opinion with a basis of facts and stats

1)Mayweather has the head to head win

2) Mayweather dominated Manny's rival in Marquez and made it look easy, while Manny didnt beat him clearly once, in 4 tries

3) Mayweather beat ODLH and Hatton first and closer to their primes

4) Pac is 6-2-1 in lineal title fights, 18-3-2 in major title fights.....Mayweather is 23-0 in lineal title fights alone......Mayweather has triple the title defenses

5) Mayweather has wins over more lineal champions, titlists, hall of famers and top ten contenders



look it up....i stated facts...if you base what is better on preference, thats cool, but I look at stats, facts then use my opinon and eye test.


Bradley was not a tougher assignment for Floyd....a fighter without power, who mostly boxes, but brawls and throws wide shots when aggressive.....i dont know what planet you're on or smoking

Fantastic Post!!!

[hugh grant]

Floyd fought Canelo smack in the middle of the two biggest wins of Ginger's career. So the logic of him being any better, or worst a couple years later seems pretty irrational and a stretch to say the least.



As for Roach, he seems to have come to grips with reality and isn't living in a world of delusion and hypotheticals. You should try it.

Canelo had no great wins when Floyd fought him. He beat trout but hardly convincing! Canelo wasnt doing what GGG is doing for instance! Ggg would stop trout like guys within 9 rounds. Bradly is s better win for PAC as he was a p4p der

[hitking]

Canelo had no great wins when Floyd fought him. He beat trout but hardly convincing! Canelo wasnt doing what GGG is doing for instance! Ggg would stop trout like guys within 9 rounds. Bradly is s better win for PAC as he was a p4p der

What makes Canelo any better now, his win over Cotto? Trout outclassed Cotto. Lara outclassed Trout. The Floyd fight is sandwiched between those wins. So he's basically no better now than then. So whatever you view Canelo as now, he was that then. If you think the ****** then, he sux now. If you think he would be a great win for say GGG now, he was a great win for Floyd then.

As for the P4P argument, its pretty much irrelevant to the conversation. Because this isn't a hypothetical discussion. Pac PHYSICALLY got in the ring and fought Bradley. Floyd PHYSICALLY got in the ring and fought Canelo. So if a person thinx Canelo would beat Bradley in a head-to-head match-up, that means Floyd beating him is more impressive than Pac beating Bradley. I know you say you would pick Bradley to beat Canelo. But, you're very much in the minority on that. So in the eyes of most, beating Canelo is more impressive than beating Bradley.

[hugh grant]

What makes Canelo any better now, his win over Cotto? Trout outclassed Cotto. Lara outclassed Trout. The Floyd fight is sandwiched between those wins. So he's basically no better now than then. So whatever you view Canelo as now, he was that then. If you think the ****** then, he sux now. If you think he would be a great win for say GGG now, he was a great win for Floyd then.

As for the P4P argument, its pretty much irrelevant to the conversation. Because this isn't a hypothetical discussion. Pac PHYSICALLY got in the ring and fought Bradley. Floyd PHYSICALLY got in the ring and fought Canelo. So if a person thinx Canelo would beat Bradley in a head-to-head match-up, that means Floyd beating him is more impressive than Pac beating Bradley. I know you say you would pick Bradley to beat Canelo. But, you're very much in the minority on that. So in the eyes of most, beating Canelo is more impressive than beating Bradley.

Cw canelo is only a devcent win for floyd, as csanrlo had not dominated anyone of note. Canelo has improved now though and without cw it would be a very good win for floyd

[hitking]

Cw canelo is only a devcent win for floyd, as csanrlo had not dominated anyone of note. Canelo has improved now though and without cw it would be a very good win for floyd

Who had Bradley beaten that made him a great win for Manny?

[hugh grant]

Who had Bradley beaten that made him a great win for Manny?

Canrelo was green which was proven with him not being able to beat the trouts of this world convincingly which was canelos best win. There was no reason to suggest Floyd would struggle to beat a guy ewho struggled with trout. Bradley was a p4p der, not considered green and was a solid champion for many years

[Rath]

He only got fighter of the decade because Floyd retired for 2 years.

and we should blame pac for that.

got it.

what confuses me is why did they choose pac when floyd retired?

is it only pac the only fighter left in boxing when floyd retires?

genius floyd fan and his logic.

[hitking]

Canrelo was green which was proven with him not being able to beat the trouts of this world convincingly. Bradley was a p4p der, not considered green and was a solid champion for many years

To my knowledge, Canelo had 40+ fights when he fought Floyd. Don't understand how a world champion, with 40+ fights is considered "green." Under most circumstances, a world champion with 40+ fights, in their early 20s is considered in their prime, not green.

As for Bradley, you didn't answer my question. Who did he beat to make him a great win for Manny? And again, P4P is irrelevant because we talking about actual head-to-head fights. Example, Hatton was P4P when he fought Floyd. Cotto wasn't P4P when Manny fought him. But, most feel Cotto would beat Hatton head-to-head. Therefore Cotto is a better win for Manny than Hatton for Floyd.

[hugh grant]

To my knowledge, Canelo had 40+ fights when he fought Floyd. Don't understand how a world champion, with 40+ fights is considered "green." Under most circumstances, a world champion with 40+ fights, in their early 20s is considered in their prime, not green.

As for Bradley, you didn't answer my question. Who did he beat to make him a great win for Manny? And again, P4P is irrelevant because we talking about actual head-to-head fights. Example, Hatton was P4P when he fought Floyd. Cotto wasn't P4P when Manny fought him. But, most feel Cotto would beat Hatton head-to-head. Therefore Cotto is a better win for Manny than Hatton for Floyd.

Canelo has improved judging by how he beast cotto and we kno cotto beat Sergio. Hatton was great sat 140. He struggled with everyone @147 so that ain't great for Floyd as well now you mention it. I'm sure most would have favoured Bradley over cotto at the time as well.

[Evan Fields]

Wow did you really bring up baby joe?????? As far as avoiding fighters go, is it floyds fault? Oscar and shane wanted no parts of floyd early on so is that floyds fault? He sought out those dudes he didn't avoid them. That they fought him later is on them not floyd.

You just said Oscar De La Hoya...who fought Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Bernard Hopkins and a dozen others in their prime.....avoided Floyd Mayweather Jr when he was inexperienced. I dont really know where to go with you from there LOL