Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach: GGG Not The Marvel Everyone Believes He Is

[aboutfkntime]

My man, no disrespect, but you are 100% wrong. That absolutely was a WW contest, even though both went back down to 140. The weight limit of the fight determines what weight classification you are in.

Canelo fights above 154 lbs and has since he lost to Floyd. The decisions in these fights are classified as MW decisions. Once you hit 154.1 on the scale, you no longer qualify for JMW.

I understand your points, but that isn't how things work. Canelo is a MW because his last 4 fights have been at 155, which is between 154.1 and 160, which makes these fights MW fights.

Nah, neither fought AT welter (147), and neither fought A welter.

There is a massive difference between a camp designed to prepare those guys for 141, as opposed to 147.

That bout did not prepare either of those guys for welter.

Garcia recently admitted that he is much stronger at 147.

What welter weighs 141 ?

Name one ?

It is absurd to call that a welterweight contest.

It was a catchweight bout 1lb over JWW.

Lets agree to disagree.

[aboutfkntime]

FACT: Canelo's last 4 fights were at middleweight dumbass

FACT: Canelo's last 4 fights were against JMW's at 155, you silly ****.

Seriously, what middleweight weighs 155, name one ?

DUDE..... IF 155 is middleweight, then why won't Hypekin fight Canelo at "middleweight"?

WHY NOT ?

IF 155 is middleweight, then why won't GGG sack up and fight him at 155 ?

Oh right..... because 155 is NOT middleweight..... gotcha ^^

[OnePunch]

FACT: Canelo's last 4 fights were against JMW's at 155, you silly ****.

Seriously, what middleweight weighs 155, name one ?

DUDE..... IF 155 is middleweight, then why won't Hypekin fight Canelo at "middleweight"?

WHY NOT ?

IF 155 is middleweight, then why won't GGG sack up and fight him at 155 ?

Oh right..... because 155 is NOT middleweight..... gotcha ^^

my god you have to be the dumbest fool Ive ever tried explaining something to.

The middleweight division spans from 154.1 to 160.0. Thats simply a fact, so I'm relatively confident we can at least agree on that point.

Therefore, if someone has decided to campaign in that division, even going so far as winning a championship in that division, wouldnt it then stand to reason that they should be willing to face other challengers in that same division at the weights allowable within that division? Or are we now at a place in the sport's history where economic clout decides every facet of the game? Maybe Kovalev should grab a cruiserweight title and then demand Glowacki fight him at 176, cause you know Kovalev isnt really a cruiserweight.

Youre a complete idiot...............

[SplitSecond]

Only if you are an ignorant casual fan.

What fkn middleweight weighs 155, you genius ?

And I will call you a silly ****, because that was explained in the post you replied to.

The same dumb people, saying the same dumb ****.

If Canelo isn't a middleweight what has he been doing in middleweight grounds since 2013?

[Beercules]

[b00g13man]

FACT: Canelo's last 4 fights were against JMW's at 155, you silly ****.

Seriously, what middleweight weighs 155, name one ?

DUDE..... IF 155 is middleweight, then why won't Hypekin fight Canelo at "middleweight"?

WHY NOT ?

IF 155 is middleweight, then why won't GGG sack up and fight him at 155 ?

Oh right..... because 155 is NOT middleweight..... gotcha ^^

Those are middleweight fights man. There's no way around it. You can stick to the "not fighting a true middleweight" thing, but he's been fighting at middleweight for a few years now.

I'm a fan of his, and would normally berate him for forcing someone else to fight at a catchweight if it weren't for the hypocrisy of Team GGG.

[Citizen Koba]

So, when Danny Garcia and Lamont Peterson fought at 141..... that fight was a welterweight contest..... right?

Pretty fkn ****** man.

Why don't you put your calculator away and use some common-sense ?

Coming in 1lb over, out of entitlement, just because you can..... does not make him a middleweight..... you utter tools

Continue abandoning common-sense, simply because it suits your guy

I do like GGG. I like Canelo also. I'm not seeing how either of these things has anything to do with the definition of MW as 154+ to 160 though. I wasn't pushing any agenda, I was quite literally baffled by your assertion. That said I will freely admit to a degree of hypocrisy since I wouldn't consider Cotto a MW or Floyd a JMW despite their fights at those weights. Perhaps it is simply because Canelo is apparently simply not able to healthily make 154 anymore or that he comes to the ring in the low - mid 170s, heavier than most guys who weigh in at the 160 limit. Whatever. I'm not seeing how this viewpoint constitutes some kind of 'fanboyism'.

[aboutfkntime]

my god you have to be the dumbest fool Ive ever tried explaining something to.

The middleweight division spans from 154.1 to 160.0. Thats simply a fact, so I'm relatively confident we can at least agree on that point.

Therefore, if someone has decided to campaign in that division, even going so far as winning a championship in that division, wouldnt it then stand to reason that they should be willing to face other challengers in that same division at the weights allowable within that division? Or are we now at a place in the sport's history where economic clout decides every facet of the game? Maybe Kovalev should grab a cruiserweight title and then demand Glowacki fight him at 176, cause you know Kovalev isnt really a cruiserweight.

Youre a complete idiot...............

He has not " decided to campaign in that division ", you silly ****.

" that division " is 160..... Canelo OBVIOUSLY does not fight at 160 because he has never fought a middleweight opponent, EVER..... he has also NEVER undertaken a training camp designed to prepare him for 160.

FACT: Canelo fights JMW's, at 155..... you silly ****.

It is called unprofessional, but it is NOT called middleweight, you silly ****.

[aboutfkntime]

I do like GGG. I like Canelo also. I'm not seeing how either of these things has anything to do with the definition of MW as 154+ to 160 though. I wasn't pushing any agenda, I was quite literally baffled by your assertion. That said I will freely admit to a degree of hypocrisy since I wouldn't consider Cotto a MW or Floyd a JMW despite their fights at those weights. Perhaps it is simply because Canelo is apparently simply not able to healthily make 154 anymore or that he comes to the ring in the low - mid 170s, heavier than most guys who weigh in at the 160 limit. Whatever. I'm not seeing how this viewpoint constitutes some kind of 'fanboyism'.

Well, if you freely admit that, then you can't have been too baffled, right ?

It's not about using a calculator..... it is about understanding the game and using some common-sense.

If 155 is middleweight, then why won't GGG fight Canelo at " middleweight "?

Why not dude ?

Right..... because 155 is NOT middleweight, and everyone knows it.

Middleweights do not weigh 155, they weigh 160.

Canelo will be much stronger given FULL camps that are specifically designed to prepare him for 160..... and EVERYONE knows it..... but lets call Canelo a middleweight NOW, simply because it benefits Golovkin to do so.

Casual fans of today not only need to learn the sport, they need to grow up.

[aboutfkntime]

The main point is this.....

..... you silly ****s can call Canelo whatever-the-fk you want, he will still refuse to enter into a fight where he is at a disadvantage.

160 > 155.

So have fun calling Canelo a middleweight while you watch that fight float by.

Even Team Golovkin aren't that ******, and that is saying something.

IF 155 is middleweight, like you silly ****s are saying..... then Golovkin can have that fight whenever he is prepared to sack-up and be a man of his word.

Right ?