Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach: GGG Not The Marvel Everyone Believes He Is

[j0zef]

Tldr: Grigory Drozd should fight Fury for the Lineal HW belt at a 201 lb catchweight.

[MASTER OF you]

LOL actions speak louder than words.

[Citizen Koba]

Well, if you freely admit that, then you can't have been too baffled, right ?

It's not about using a calculator..... it is about understanding the game and using some common-sense.

If 155 is middleweight, then why won't GGG fight Canelo at " middleweight "?

Why not dude ?

Right..... because 155 is NOT middleweight, and everyone knows it.

Middleweights do not weigh 155, they weigh 160.

Canelo will be much stronger given FULL camps that are specifically designed to prepare him for 160..... and EVERYONE knows it..... but lets call Canelo a middleweight NOW, simply because it benefits Golovkin to do so.

Casual fans of today not only need to learn the sport, they need to grow up.

OK, bruv. Like I said to start with you're entitled to your belief. Checking out the responses I'd say you're in the decided minority on the weight issue, but that's OK, never a bad thing to stick to your guns. FWIW I hadn't actually given much thought to whether Canelo would be better given time to properly acclimatise to the full 160 but that's probably true, Furthermore age is on his side and he continues to improve as he gains top flight experience. Mainly I just wanted to see the fight happen, whether it's at 155, 156, or 160 I don't particularly want to wait for another coupla years. Looking at your posts though it seems like you're more emotionally invested in this fight than most other posters, pro or anti GGG. I mean if we're going to wait another year or two, why not 3 or 4? Make sure GGGs well past his prime?

C'mon. The time for this fight is now, I'm not a fan of catchweights but I'd rather this happened at 155 or 156 sooner than at 160 later, and I honestly don't care who wins. Canelo's been fighting guys the same size as GGG for the last 2 years from a division that's supposedly much stronger than MW so I can't see that the move to full 160 should be a major issue. The principal difference is that he won't need to drain down as much, which should be a good thing - hopefully it should help with his stamina at the very least.

[Chuckguy]

I just don't understand how Can't-Nelos groupies support his 155 BS weight class Or even a CW for the lineal MW championship! WTF

[Southpawology]

Hes not a marvel BUT....BUT we want to fight him at a catchweight. lol

[OnePunch]

He has not " decided to campaign in that division ", you silly ****.

" that division " is 160..... Canelo OBVIOUSLY does not fight at 160 because he has never fought a middleweight opponent, EVER..... he has also NEVER undertaken a training camp designed to prepare him for 160.

FACT: Canelo fights JMW's, at 155..... you silly ****.

It is called unprofessional, but it is NOT called middleweight, you silly ****.

you ****** ****. GGGs last few fights he weighed in at 159 and 159.5 (not 160!!!), so I guess he's no longer a middleweight according to your pea brained logic.

[SUBZER0ED]

How do you insult a man, saying he's not all that, then in the next breath say you want him to drain down to fight you? Bitch ass move!

[batista84]

great, another "but but but but lara doe" idiot.

Hey ******ass, let us know when any Haymon fighters get on HBO.

And just because someone thinks they can beat anyone from 154-168, that doesnt mean that every single fight between 154-168 is suddenly makeable dumbass.......

Lara has been calling out Golovkin before PBC even was discussed as a project.

Next time take a CT Scan so you make sure your brain is ok. cheers.

[batista84]

Did either Floyd and Manny try to drain a guy they themselves actually walk into the ring heavier than?

I am not even worried about the 155, Canelo doesn't even want to go that low.

The fight won't be lower than 157, but it's likely to be at 160.

We'll know if Canelo tests the water at 160 his next fight like they are saying he will.

If he fights a WW at 155, Canelo has no plans of ever facing GGG, even at 155.

Listen if you ever been on high competition sport, I'm an amateur bodybuilder and trained with professionals, I know how weight gains and loses work.

It's not about weighting more than your opponent on fight night, it's about how a body reacts when it loses weight to a certain point. Some people can do it easily, some people gets really hurt when losing weight.

I'ma assume (because I don't know GGG personally) that he really weakens himself if he goes below some breakpoint (could be 157) the moment a person's body don't react good to weight loss (factors like age, body type and a million more) the moment they lose huge power, they lose brain fluids, they lose cell recovery, oxygenation and a thousand more things.

I'm almost sure that Golovkin is the kind of person who reacts very ugly when losing weight to a certain breakpoint. due to the fact that the dude has fought his entire life amateur and professional at MW limit 160, plus his age doesn't help at all with good recovery overnight.

GGG gets hurt more lowering to 155 than Canelo, but even so I still think that @155 GGG beats Canelo, so someone tells GGG to have cojones and fight Canelo at the weight he wants to, he should be able to beat him at whatever weight right?

Double Standards....................

[Lester Tutor]

The main point is this.....

..... you silly ****s can call Canelo whatever-the-fk you want, he will still refuse to enter into a fight where he is at a disadvantage.

160 > 155.

So have fun calling Canelo a middleweight while you watch that fight float by.

Even Team Golovkin aren't that ******, and that is saying something.

IF 155 is middleweight, like you silly ****s are saying..... then Golovkin can have that fight whenever he is prepared to sack-up and be a man of his word.

Right ?

You're taking things out of context or you don't know the rules of boxing, and you're spreading Cotto's lineal drama over to Canelo just to argue nonsense.

Nobody is saying "155 is a middleweight." You're just paraphrasing drama. The Middleweight LIMIT is 160. Hence, "LIMIT." Since the limit is the main factor, that's what the weight class reflects to, LIMIT. Anything above 154 on the SCALES is eligible for a Middleweight bout. If its the disadvantage to the fighter then so be it. If a seasoned 160 fighter comes in at 155 on the scales many would assume dude's drained. 158 not so much.

I don't buy into the speculation about what Canelo's mgmt is saying or rumors for "155" thats just comical retaliation to let the fight brew. Canelo vs GGG will happen. We can only criticize when the Actual fight has been negotiated or how the bout will be sanctioned. If the 160 limit is agreed between both then it's a traditional Middleweight bout. Canelo fought at Cotto's terms and Cotto lost. Lol. How is that Canelo's fault to say he is "155?" That has nothing to do with the final agreements between GGG and Canelo. The only reason why there's so much heat atm is not because Canelo is "afraid" it's because GBP are milking the WBC Lineal status as much as possible to make money. This is what promoters do when they got the goods... just like someone called Loeffler...

I hope this is clear.