How can Canelo be P4P #1?

[Dr. Uncle]

I don't exactly rate Pascal and 50yr old Hopkins that highly.

I do rank them higher than the old shot Cotto that Canelo beat, who couldn't beat Trout and whose best accomplishment was beating an old handicapped Sergio Martinez.

[deathofaclown]

If he fought and beat GGG next then maybe. Beating Cotto and GGG back to back could be worthy of p4p status.

It wont happen though. He'll never fight GGG and certainly can't beat him. He knows it that's why he wants to drain him to stand any chance.

I'd like to see Golovkin call his bluff and say he can make 155 comfortably and healthy, no problem. I think Canelo would move the goal posts again. He doesn't want it.

[soul_survivor]

I have to start changing my p4p list too, since I had Wlad at one. I'd probably drop him down now and the next 2 or 3 guys move up.

[-PBP-]

Points system based on wins, KO ratio and names

[b00g13man]

I don't rank boxers based on the point of view of corrupt judges.
At best, I can give Canelo draws against Lara and Trout, and that's only to be generous so I don't have to face the wrath of his fanboys who think he won those fights by barely landing anything.

So, Canelo's two best wins are Cotto and Kirkland. Golovkin's best wins are Murray and Lemieux. There is not much of a difference. But Golovkin is undefeated and has a higher KO percentage and generally is a better fighter, there is a reason Canelo fears him. Having Canelo above Golovkin is ******ed.

As for Kovalev, his resume is much better than Canelo's AND Golovkin's.

Lol @ corrupt judges. I had Canelo winning both fights regardless.

[Dr. Uncle]

Lol @ corrupt judges. I had Canelo winning both fights regardless.

You don't win a fight by aggression if you don't land your punches.

The fact that Canelo won against Lara and Trout, the fact that he only lost by MD to Mayweather, the extremely wide scores in the Cotto fight... It is obvious that Canelo has an unfair advantage regarding scoring. To beat Canelo, you have to knock him out or completely clown him in every round like Mayweather did (and still one judge had it a draw!!!).

[_Maxi]

lol He's definitely done more than Golovkin, thats for sure

Golovkin would beat Lara, Trout and Cotto more convincingly that he did.

And would bit Canelo's ass too.

Look at the gif in your sig. It's a middleweight against a JMW. Not Canelos fault. He was fighting for the MW title, so it's ok to come in MW size. Now... fight GGG at 160 and let's see who can do more. GGG opponents might be not as good yet, but he has destroyed them all and he didn't lose any round while doing so, which is an indicative that he belongs to other league.

Sergio Martinez: Canelo is great, but GGG is off the charts.

[Dr. Uncle]

Golovkin would beat Lara, Trout and Cotto more convincingly that he did.

And would bit Canelo's ass too.

Look at the gif in your sig. It's a middleweight against a JMW. Not Canelos fault. He was fighting for the MW title, so it's ok to come in MW size. Now... fight GGG at 160 and let's see who can do more. GGG opponents might be not as good yet, but he has destroyed them all and he didn't lose any round while doing so, which is an indicative that he belongs to other league.

Sergio Martinez: Canelo is great, but GGG is off the charts.

Canelo fanboys are worse than the Mayweather fanboys and Pacquiao fanboys. At least Floyd and Pac had achievements to back up their reputation.

[b00g13man]

You don't win a fight by aggression if you don't land your punches.

The fact that Canelo won against Lara and Trout, the fact that he only lost by MD to Mayweather, the extremely wide scores in the Cotto fight... It is obvious that Canelo has an unfair advantage regarding scoring. To beat Canelo, you have to knock him out or completely clown him in every round like Mayweather did (and still one judge had it a draw!!!).

He won all 3 fights either way. The fact the scorecards were wider than they should've been doesn't change that.

[Dr. Uncle]

He won all 3 fights either way. The fact the scorecards were wider than they should've been doesn't change that.

Come on, it's just delusional to say he won against Lara and Trout. I'm probably the biggest Froch fan on this board and I admit he didn't beat Dirrell, no matter what the scorecards said. Why can't Canelo fans be equally honest?