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  • deathofaclown
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    #11
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    I'm happy for Tyson because I like him and have followed him for a long time. That said, I think he looked awful. Really embarrassed that he won it on that performance and that Wlad was not throwing at all.
    As someone who likes both guys I wish the winner would have looked impressive. Fury is one of these guys, like Robert Guerrero, whose personality I really like but they aren't great by any means. I find myself being terribly critical about their boxing.
    It was never going to be a pretty fight but Fury went in there and outhustled great champion and basically beat him at his own game.

    Fury looked brilliant, but not pleasing to the eye. But he executed a brilliant plan to win the fight and thats all you can do, even if its ugly.

    he is very skilled at times. no average fighter could just take away Klitschko's game like that.

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    • billeau2
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      #12
      Originally posted by ИATAS
      Remove clinching from Wlad's game and this is what we get.
      Vlad was and is a guy who has great power when he sets and has a great jab...he never could box and Fury has skills, can punch without setting, and while his jab is/was sloppy, he can throw it at angles. What a lot of people were not getting is that a lot of these guys are not "movers" in the ring. They all need to set. Fury is no Ali, but watching him work this week one could see he was practicing throwing the jab without setting. Fury's corner has experience and had a premonition that this was the strategy needed...they were right.

      I think Fury, sloppy as he was, deserves credit for moving very well in semi circles off of Vlad's power hand..he would jib and jab just as Vlad was trying to set, in so doing he actually took Vlad's jab away...despite the fact that Vlad has a tremendous jab.

      fury actually has some skills...he still needs refinement but he has a sense of how to move in a ring properly, something we have not seen in a heavy weight champ for a while.

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      • Amandlala
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        #13
        I have to thank Tyson Fury from the bottom of my heart.

        One of the finest performances I have seen.

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        • firstborn
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          #14
          Props to Fury, I was wrong. He earned my respect tonight even though I hate his antics.....

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          • billeau2
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            #15
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx
            I'm happy for Tyson because I like him and have followed him for a long time. That said, I think he looked awful. Really embarrassed that he won it on that performance and that Wlad was not throwing at all.
            As someone who likes both guys I wish the winner would have looked impressive. Fury is one of these guys, like Robert Guerrero, whose personality I really like but they aren't great by any means. I find myself being terribly critical about their boxing.
            Your a smarter poster than that. your looking at his hands when he won this fight with his feet. He moved very well in the ring. Yes his jabs were sloppy and his slow mo punches were...well.... but Fury can move around a boxing ring and he did so tonight.

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            • Redd Foxx
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              #16
              Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
              I thought Fury's performance was ingenious. He left Vlad clueless as to what to do, simply. Fury's size and reach advantage played a big role too. He almost toyed with Vlad, it was kind of shocking to witness.
              The movement, to keep Wlad from throwing was brilliant. But, you simply can't say that Tyson's output was anything less than sloppy and sparse. Nothing even close to being crisp, powerful, or accurate, particularly on a guy who wasn't giving him any reason not to throw.
              I understand being gracious but let's be honest here. Tyson is not the most talented boxer but he's done much better against guys who actually came to fight.

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              • Redd Foxx
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                #17
                Originally posted by billeau2
                Your a smarter poster than that. your looking at his hands when he won this fight with his feet. He moved very well in the ring. Yes his jabs were sloppy and his slow mo punches were...well.... but Fury can move around a boxing ring and he did so tonight.
                Read my last post.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #18
                  I'm happy you didn't make any excuses.

                  Fury fought a good fight and he took Wlad by surprise from the get go.

                  Maybe a rematch would be different.

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                  • Damn Wicked
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown
                    It was never going to be a pretty fight but Fury went in there and outhustled great champion and basically beat him at his own game.

                    Fury looked brilliant, but not pleasing to the eye. But he executed a brilliant plan to win the fight and thats all you can do, even if its ugly.

                    he is very skilled at times. no average fighter could just take away Klitschko's game like that.
                    Yep, I agree. Not much a Fury fan but he fought the right fight and he moved really well. Shockingly well for such a big, tall heavyweight.

                    Wlad wasn't bad tonight, it's just that Fury was really good tonight.

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                    • paulf
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      The movement, to keep Wlad from throwing was brilliant. But, you simply can't say that Tyson's output was anything less than sloppy and sparse.
                      Kind of ironic, the quote also describes Klitschko-Haye to a T. Crazy to think that the bumbling guy who uppercutted himself would one day win the unified championship with lateral movement, feints, and counterpunching. Truly incredible.

                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Maybe a rematch would be different.
                      Fury took his confidence away and dominated him. Rematch would be the same result; at Wladimirs age, I don't think he's up for the task of climbing the mountain all over again. And I'm not blaming his loss on age, I just think he's done.

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