Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Reacts To Cotto/WBC Situation

[aboutfkntime]

Sure, back in the day, GGG would have loved to take that fight at 168 against Chavez, for tons of money. Then he'd get right back to his real work of consolidating the MW title.

In the more contemporary world, Ward should have taken the GGG fight at the public offer 164, meeting him in the middle. But I guess he didn't want to. He probably didn't feel he could win that fight.

Or maybe he couldn't make the weight because in actuality he's a LHW? You can decide. Either way, he didn't take it.

You absolutely know that Ward can't make the weight.

That's your 2nd **** (dishonest) post and we're still on page 1.

[aboutfkntime]

Team Hypekin are now only interested in 160, because there are no world-class fighters there.

They used to fight in 154-168, but Ward punked them away from 168, and Cotto/Canelo punked them away from 154.

They are going to tip-toe through the tulips until they break Hopkins record, because the casual fans will run with that til they drop dead from exhaustion.

Team Hype-train, leaving the station.

Great news for Willie Monroe, he likely gets his rematch.

[aboutfkntime]

GGG has never been defeated or even knocked down. But Cotto has taken a knee to avoid further punishment.

So yes. Different legacies.

FACT: Cotto > Golovkin

Golovkin will never get close to Cotto all time.

He avoided from Ward/Lara/Cotto/Canelo, despite them being his best win.

How can you become great if you are unwilling to fight world-class opponents?

[LaidOut]

FACT: Cotto > Golovkin

Golovkin will never get close to Cotto all time.

He avoided from Ward/Lara/Cotto/Canelo, despite them being his best win.

How can you become great if you are unwilling to fight world-class opponents?

Well, GGG sure made Cotto his B I T C H by making him pay that 'Don't hurt me just yet' money. Easiest $800K to be made in boxing right there. That was some pimp action, so take note.

[Eastlos]

Fact is, Jermain Taylor unified the Middleweight titles but isn't consider an all time great. That being said I would still rank him ahead of Lil G if he where to accomplish the same feat for the simple fact that he faced the best in Hopkins, Pavlik, Froch and even Abraham. When you look at Lil G resume his best win is Martin Murray a solid fighter but no where near the level that Taylor faced in his time. Lil G will never be great if he refuses to take risks and fight guys like Ward or Lara as far as i'm concern he's nothing but hype until he adds either Ward, Lara, Canelo name in there.

[mick1303]

Even if Golovkin unifies all of the titles, he still won't be THE middleweight champion. Cotto is still THE lineal middleweight champion. Hence, that theory isn't accurate. The best in the middleweight division until he either leaves the division, loses, or retires is Miguel Cotto.

In the ideal world you would be correct. But in a real world Cotto marginalized this "lineal" title by consistently dragging his opponents below division limit and by avoiding the mandatory. The fact that now he does not want to pay sanctioning fee to WBC tells everyone how much he believes in his victory over Canelo. Cotto is cashing out and maximizing his profits. All power to him. Just don't call him a warrior.

[-PBP-]

I have a few problems with your list

First you didn't say whether you think Froch is high risk or not

We are clear that he is indeed high risk right?

Second what exactly do you mean when you say reward?

Financial reward or the reward of victory?

I'm assuming financial reward as you are uncertain what type of reward comes with Andre Ward.

Because if you're talking the reward of victory a win over Ward (for legacy's sake) is 10 times greater than all the others combined!

I don't know if Froch at this point is high risk. Long layoff and disinterested in boxing. If he comes back he's just selling his name to the highest bidder and will do enough to survive the 12.

And I'm talking financial reward. Ward is uncertain because it's such a risky fight with a slim chance of GGG winning. If he does the unthinkable he could now market himself as the best fighter on the planet. But that is highly unlikely.

[mick1303]

Would be sick as **** if Andy lee caught Golovkin and laid him flat out on his mug the way he did that black dude. Gi Gi will get the Ronda treatment and be slayed to bits. Would be a good fight though. Would favor Golovkin to win by stoppage.

If Canelo refuses then Lara or Lee are good fights that can be made. Lara - just to see the resident yahoos on NSB to change their tune. Lee (if he wins vs BJS) - for the belt.

[mick1303]

Fact is, Jermain Taylor unified the Middleweight titles but isn't consider an all time great. That being said I would still rank him ahead of Lil G if he where to accomplish the same feat for the simple fact that he faced the best in Hopkins, Pavlik, Froch and even Abraham. When you look at Lil G resume his best win is Martin Murray a solid fighter but no where near the level that Taylor faced in his time. Lil G will never be great if he refuses to take risks and fight guys like Ward or Lara as far as i'm concern he's nothing but hype until he adds either Ward, Lara, Canelo name in there.

Jermain Taylor was for a moment unified champion. But he didn't unify himself - he won the unified championship in one fight. Took it from Hopkins. "Unifying" as I understanding - is collecting the belts one by one from different fighters.

[raymosr]

Cotto told GGG 2 unify Deez Nutz biatch