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Who is the closest fighter ever to being perfect?
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My vote is for Ray Robinson and Sven Ottke.
We all know about Robinson, so lets talk about Ottke for a minute. He had brutal one punch KO power, took P4P Mundine's 0 with it. 22 Defenses and nobody could take that 0 away from him. Absolutely no controversy in his wins, all brutal beat downs of the best the world could offer.
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SRR gets my vote as the best overall boxer/fighter.
- Now the guys who think PBF was a better overall fighter than SRL?.. Well I give PBF the edge only in defensive awareness. But SRL defense was nothing to sneeze at. SRL beats him in every other category. PBF doesnt even throw more than 2 punch combinations..SRL threw flurries, Combos, power shots..and his resume blows PBF's away. He beat Benitez,Duran,Hearns,Hagler...ALL IN THERE PRIME...
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Originally posted by PBP. View PostWhoa!!! When did I say it was his strategy? My argument was that he is a complete fighter that can mix it up. He walked him down at times and gave him different looks.
See your moving the goal posts because you know you're wrong. You made a dumb comment about Floyd being a one dimensional fighter and now you're exposing yourself for not knowing what walking down means. Walking down is not moving forward and brawling as you are insinuating.
You have no clue what the **** your talking about no matter how many smileys and "flowmo" insults you throw around.
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Originally posted by onetwopunch View PostSRR gets my vote as the best overall boxer/fighter.
- Now the guys who think PBF was a better overall fighter than SRL?.. Well I give PBF the edge only in defensive awareness. But SRL defense was nothing to sneeze at. SRL beats him in every other category. PBF doesnt even throw more than 2 punch combinations..SRL threw flurries, Combos, power shots..and his resume blows PBF's away. He beat Benitez,Duran,Hearns,Hagler...ALL IN THERE PRIME...
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Originally posted by b00g13man View PostLooool. Can't believe he called Pea and Floyd one dimensional. Ridiculous really.
compared to ray robinson and ray leonard they are average offensive fighters. robinson and leonard, in addition to having boxing skills, had knockout power and were aggressive. robinson is one of the best offensive fighters of all time. he had knockout power in either hand. does floyd mayweather?
so yes, when you compare them to great fighters who could do more things, they're one dimensional.
a well rounded great can come back late in a fight because of his power and his finishing ability. floyd mayweather is a poor finisher if you compare him to the all time greats. he's just not that kind of fighter. that doesn't mean he's not great. you don't need to knock people out to win. that does, however, make him a limited fighter.
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Originally posted by New England View Postcompared to ray robinson and ray leonard they are average offensive fighters. robinson and leonard, in addition to having boxing skills, had knockout power and were aggressive. robinson is one of the best offensive fighters of all time. he had knockout power in either hand. does floyd mayweather?
so yes, when you compare them to great fighters who could do more things, they're one dimensional.
a well rounded great can come back late in a fight because of his power and his finishing ability. floyd mayweather is a poor finisher if you compare him to the all time greats. he's just not that kind of fighter. that doesn't mean he's not great. you don't need to knock people out to win. that does, however, make him a limited fighter.
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