Who is the closest fighter ever to being perfect?

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  • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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    #101
    Originally posted by New England
    ray leonard fought some of the very best fighters of all time. those are the guys who got to him. his competition faced is lightyears beyond floyd's. tommy hearns would knock floyd mayweather out. you don't know boxing if you don't think that's the case. there's nothing a shoulder roll is goign to do to stop a 6'1" dude with the best right hand of all time and a HW reach. floyd would end up on the ropes and eventually on the ground.
    ok man the question had nothing to do with all of this but thanks for the info.

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    • NChristo
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      #102
      Jose Napoles is up there, his only weakness was his paper thin skin.

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      • deanrw
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        #103
        My vote is for Ray Robinson and Sven Ottke.

        We all know about Robinson, so lets talk about Ottke for a minute. He had brutal one punch KO power, took P4P Mundine's 0 with it. 22 Defenses and nobody could take that 0 away from him. Absolutely no controversy in his wins, all brutal beat downs of the best the world could offer.

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        • onetwopunch
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          #104
          SRR gets my vote as the best overall boxer/fighter.
          - Now the guys who think PBF was a better overall fighter than SRL?.. Well I give PBF the edge only in defensive awareness. But SRL defense was nothing to sneeze at. SRL beats him in every other category. PBF doesnt even throw more than 2 punch combinations..SRL threw flurries, Combos, power shots..and his resume blows PBF's away. He beat Benitez,Duran,Hearns,Hagler...ALL IN THERE PRIME...

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          • b00g13man
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            #105
            Originally posted by PBP.
            Whoa!!! When did I say it was his strategy? My argument was that he is a complete fighter that can mix it up. He walked him down at times and gave him different looks.

            See your moving the goal posts because you know you're wrong. You made a dumb comment about Floyd being a one dimensional fighter and now you're exposing yourself for not knowing what walking down means. Walking down is not moving forward and brawling as you are insinuating.

            You have no clue what the **** your talking about no matter how many smileys and "flowmo" insults you throw around.
            Looool. Can't believe he called Pea and Floyd one dimensional. Ridiculous really.

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            • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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              #106
              Originally posted by onetwopunch
              SRR gets my vote as the best overall boxer/fighter.
              - Now the guys who think PBF was a better overall fighter than SRL?.. Well I give PBF the edge only in defensive awareness. But SRL defense was nothing to sneeze at. SRL beats him in every other category. PBF doesnt even throw more than 2 punch combinations..SRL threw flurries, Combos, power shots..and his resume blows PBF's away. He beat Benitez,Duran,Hearns,Hagler...ALL IN THERE PRIME...
              it said Floyd at 135, not 147... he threw combos

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              • New England
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                #107
                Originally posted by b00g13man
                Looool. Can't believe he called Pea and Floyd one dimensional. Ridiculous really.


                compared to ray robinson and ray leonard they are average offensive fighters. robinson and leonard, in addition to having boxing skills, had knockout power and were aggressive. robinson is one of the best offensive fighters of all time. he had knockout power in either hand. does floyd mayweather?

                so yes, when you compare them to great fighters who could do more things, they're one dimensional.


                a well rounded great can come back late in a fight because of his power and his finishing ability. floyd mayweather is a poor finisher if you compare him to the all time greats. he's just not that kind of fighter. that doesn't mean he's not great. you don't need to knock people out to win. that does, however, make him a limited fighter.

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                • Syf
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by B Phontain
                  . Floyd would never have had a leonard/duran 1. never.
                  Lol why not? Castillo and Maidana gave Floyd all he could handle in their first fights. Just imagine what Duran could do.

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                  • onetwopunch
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
                    it said Floyd at 135, not 147... he threw combos
                    - Still SRL was better overall.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by New England
                      compared to ray robinson and ray leonard they are average offensive fighters. robinson and leonard, in addition to having boxing skills, had knockout power and were aggressive. robinson is one of the best offensive fighters of all time. he had knockout power in either hand. does floyd mayweather?

                      so yes, when you compare them to great fighters who could do more things, they're one dimensional.


                      a well rounded great can come back late in a fight because of his power and his finishing ability. floyd mayweather is a poor finisher if you compare him to the all time greats. he's just not that kind of fighter. that doesn't mean he's not great. you don't need to knock people out to win. that does, however, make him a limited fighter.
                      You clearly have no clue what one-dimensional means, regardless of any comparisons to SRL or SRR.

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