[interview] TBE doesnt believe GGG is worth the hype until he takes a risk vs ward

[therealpugilist]

Mayweather grew out of 3 weight divisions (130,135,140) and fought select foes at 154. He was 23 years old when he left 130lbs and 27 years old when he left 135lbs for 140 and 28 when he moved to 147 where his body stayed. People act like Mayweather moved up for a challenge -
I'd love to see his ass keep making 130lbs in his late 20's......


In fact Mayweather did the same thing GGG haters rage against GGG about.

• Golovkin challenged Froch & Chavez and offered Ward a catch weight.
• Mayweather challenged Dela Hoya & Cotto and offered Alvarez a catch weight.

When Floyd fought Castillo he weight 138 fight night and Castillo was 147.....Floyd is not a huge welterweight


Manny is supposedly so small but he weighed over 140 on fightnight when he campaigned at 130


He moved up in weight chasing glory and fame and if you don't think so, you're a lil slow.....Floyd is no jr. middleweight and all 3 of his fights were huge money fights vs top opposition
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If you don't think he tried to challenge himself, that's cool...it just shows how great you think he is cuz no one his size is/was a perceived challenge to you

[Mr. Philadel]

5 weight classes against hof'er's, champions and top contenders for almost 20 years>>>>>>>1 weight class against nothing but ****ing bums and taxi drivers for over 11 years........and golovtards are trying to compare the two, lmao. Floyd is right and about the whole gwh thing and this proves it.

like I said before, the **** is soooooo blatant and obvious but a lot of dudes love little g.....they either see it and refuse to admit it or they're just blinded by the love...one or the other

[therealpugilist]

5 weight classes against hof'er's, champions and top contenders for almost 20 years>>>>>>>1 weight class against nothing but ****ing bums and taxi drivers for over 11 years........and golovtards are trying to compare the two, lmao. Floyd is right and about the whole gwh thing and this proves it.

^^^^^^this

[HanzGruber]

Yep you're right, Shane had 2 fights at 147 in a 14 month period to Oscar, I stand corrected. Looks like one of the only top level fighters in the modern era to jump 2 weight classes to fight the champion was Marquez vs Floyd.

Broner lol

[Eastcoast]

When Floyd fought Castillo he weight 138 fight night and Castillo was 147.....Floyd is not a huge welterweight


Manny is supposedly so small but he weighed over 140 on fightnight when he campaigned at 130


He moved up in weight chasing glory and fame and if you don't think so, you're a lil slow.....Floyd is no jr. middleweight and all 3 of his fights were huge money fights vs top opposition
'

If you don't think he tried to challenge himself, that's cool...it just shows how great you think he is cuz no one his size is/was a perceived challenge to you

I wasn't going to respond to this because your post is a grammatical mess, but ****...

Why you bring up Floyd's first fight at LW to tell me he's a small WW? That makes no sense at all...

If Mayweather was chasing glory, he could've chased some better fighters. I already pointed out some guys his own size that he decided to never fight. Nobody asked for Sosa & N'Dou when Johnston & later Lazcano came around. He went up for Gatti, not Tsyzu. He turned down Margarito for Baldomir. He stepped away from the sport when his division at 147 got hot.

Floyd was a legit sized WW. Like you said, he only went up to 154 for money fights. Golovkin is a legit sized MW, and so far has only looked to go up to 168 for money fights. You praise one guy and criticize the other for the same actions.

[therealpugilist]

like I said before, the **** is soooooo blatant and obvious but a lot of dudes love little g.....they either see it and refuse to admit it or they're just blinded by the love...one or the other

Which further shows the agenda of the boxing media to have the face of boxing be a non-African American

Lets be real....1)when was the last time the p4p best in the world wasn't black???

Floyd Mayweather has been the best from the early 2000s to now,
Roy Jones was the best of the mid 90s to early 2000s,
Pernell Whitaker was the best p4p in the late 80s and early 90s,
Hagler was considered the best p4p after Leonard retired and until SRL beat him in 87,
Leonard was the best p4p late 70s and 80s,
Roberto Duran is the last non African American to be considered the best fighter in the world p4p and that was 40 years ago.


2)When was the last time a white American or white was considered the greatest fighter in the world? Tony Canzoneri in the 30's? Barney Ross



They the white media needs a hope, they are so desperate they don't care if they are a foreigner or not as long as the face of boxing isn't a black man


Proven black fighters like Ward, Bradley, Mayweather get trashed about comp but other guys are fighting nobodies and getting getting big ups from the media

[New England]

And yet he hasn't done **** with it.

where would you put murray's win over martinez if he got the nod in argentina when comparing it to all of these great carl froch wins?

murray's win over martinez would be better than anything bute produced, for example. at the very least it'd be a comparable win to a win over sakio bika, or a 90 year old glen johnson. i haven't seen that fight in a long time, but there was a legit knockdown and a knockdown that wasn't called, IIRC.

martinez was clearly fading, but he had a lot more in the tank for murray than he did for cotto. he looked strong at the end of the fight, for example. he also moved a lot better throughout.


i don't think that murray had the career that froch had, and i think froch would beat him up pretty badly if they fought, but you're talking about froch's wins like they're lightyears beyond beating an aging martinez, and that's really not fair when you think about some of froch's best wins [bute, abraham, faded kessler in the second fight, faded taylor, sketchy win over dirrell, etc.]



in short, i think you overrate froch and underrate murray. you've got this shifting agenda as froch mulls over a comeback . it's entertaining.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

where would you put murray's win over martinez if he got the nod in argentina when comparing it to all of these great carl froch wins?

murray's win over martinez would be better than anything bute produced, for example. at the very least it'd be a comparable win to a win over sakio bika, or a 90 year old glen johnson. i haven't seen that fight in a long time, but there was a legit knockdown and a knockdown that wasn't called, IIRC.

martinez was clearly fading, but he had a lot more in the tank for murray than he did for cotto. he looked strong at the end of the fight, for example. he also moved a lot better throughout.


i don't think that murray had the career that froch had, and i think froch would beat him up pretty badly if they fought, but you're talking about froch's wins like they're lightyears beyond beating an aging martinez, and that's really not fair when you think about some of froch's best wins [bute, abraham, faded kessler in the second fight, faded taylor, sketchy win over dirrell, etc.]



in short, i think you overrate froch and underrate murray. you've got this shifting agenda as froch mulls over a comeback . it's entertaining.

Only a fat idiot like you would question Car Froch's resume.

[The Problem Child]

Too bad the official numbers came out and the fight turned out to do 500K. More than floyds last career fight. FH and floyd owned lmao.

[New England]

Only a fat idiot like you would question Car Froch's resume.

only somebody with nothing to offer responds to legitimate inquiry by calling somebody fat. it's even more curious when he's too shy to post his own picture, but that's an argument for another day.



it's easy to poke holes in the resume of carl froch. it's just not that good. he's got a lot of good / OK wins. he lost to the two best fighters he faced, and the rest of his wins can easily be put into perspective if you contextualize the years leading up to and following them.