Arum:Khan or Crawford for Pacquiao in April

[IronDanHamza]

And how is that any different from Khan? How good did he look against Algieri? Who was not even ranked at the weight?

As I said, it was a chance for Pacquiao to go for another weight, I didn't even say Margarito 'deserved' it. I said it happened for the reasons it did. Which is nothing but the truth.

So let's get this straight. In the 3,5 years before Margarito faced Pacquiao he fought:

Paul Williams in a close fight, Golden Johnson (who?), Cintron, Cotto, Mosley (L) and Roberto Garcia coming off a winning streak. He had fought for and won LINEAL belts in this time.

In Khan's last 3,5 years he has fought:

Danny Garcia (KO4L), Carlos Molina (who?), Julio Diaz, Luis Collazo, Devon Alexander and Chris Algieri. He didn't fight for any titles and hasn't fought a natural WW yet, except for Collazo.

And you're trying to tell me he deserves a fight more than Margarito.

No thanks.

It's different because Algeri is a thousand times better than Garcia that's why.

Why are you looking at 3.5 years?

Let's look at their 2 years;

Khan; Collazoz, Alexander, Algeri

Margarito; Mosley beatdown, Garcia

Who's is better?

Khan clearly deserves it more than Margarito did.

Khan is ranked at a weight, has recently beaten good-decent fighters in the last 2 years, hasnt recently been battered for 9 straight rounds and stopped in the last year unlike Margarito who is the opposite to all of those things.

[IronDanHamza]

Roberto Garcia wasn't a bum. Just not very good.

Yeah you're right. Hardly murderous row. At all.

At least Margarito had been on a murderous row.

What do you consider a bum? He's never been ranked in his life so there's that.

Yeah he fought a murderers row....like 4 years earlier.

He last legit win was over 2 years prior. That's a fact.

[LacedUp]

It's different because Algeri is a thousand times better than Garcia that's why.

Why are you looking at 3.5 years?

Let's look at their 2 years;

Khan; Collazoz, Alexander, Algeri

Margarito; Mosley beatdown, Garcia

Who's is better?

Khan clearly deserves it more than Margarito did.

Khan is ranked at a weight, has recently beaten good-decent fighters in the last 2 years, hasnt recently been battered for 9 straight rounds and stopped in the last year unlike Margarito who is the opposite to all of those things.

Is he? I don't know. Besides, Margarito won every round in that fight.

Because it shows where each fighter is coming from. Even in two years Margarito beat undefeated Cotto which absolutely craps all over everything Khan has done in his entire career. You didn't mention that ;-)

So yeah who is better?

I don't think so. I can't possibly see what Khan has done in 3-4 years at the weight , let alone two years that says he's more deserving of guy that took Cotto's soul two years prior to fighting Pacquiao. He might have lost to Mosley, and it was a brutal one-sided beatdown. But Mosley is a great fighter.

In comparison, Khan has been put on the floor by Julio Diaz two years ago, and has been hurt by Chris Algieri, who actually came out with a raised stock. And it was a cherrypick. Come on people.

[LacedUp]

What do you consider a bum? He's never been ranked in his life so there's that.

Yeah he fought a murderers row....like 4 years earlier.

He last legit win was over 2 years prior. That's a fact.

I don't know. I wouldn't say he was a bum, just not world class and obviously Margarito needed to find himself after the mosley beatdown. He was average. Like Algieri.

yes, and by April time it will be 1,5 years since Khan had his last legit win, which was nowhere near as legit as Margarito's win over Cotto anyway.

So tell me what the difference is? Chris Algieri?

I know you're not telling me that barely beating Algieri who Pacquiao beat in one of the most lopsided beatdowns in history, deserves him anything.

[Box-Office]

Because it proves that Porter wasn't a fluke? I don't think that requires too much intelligence to figure out. Maybe I'm wrong. Obviously if Porter had lost his next 2-3 fights Brook's victory wouldn't seem as good. But he didn't, so it's still just as good.

Porter was already proven regardless.

Matthysse was still a good fighter when he fought Alexander. He was the boogeyman even then. Still doesn't take away that Alexander got beaten by him, and also got outboxed by Kotelnik. World class doe.

He hadn't proven himself till then, you can give credit to Alexander for his chin or the fact Matthysse was his comeback opponent after a loss.

Here we go again with the excuses for featherfists. You're embarrassing yourself with that. just leave it.

Lol what? Because Brook is ranked in the top 10 P4P by Ring, is ranked over Khan in the welterweight rankings by every credible ranking and because people on this forum and a lot of other places are saying Khan is running scared. Which he is. Contradicting himself on a daily basis and embarrassing himself.

How is Khan running scared? That was relevant and of course I agreed to it, when it was. Per this deal it is absolutely irrelevant.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=684524

The way things are going, "our Kell" won't be getting that payday.

Your last paragraph didn't make any sense at all. I know Khan has a better resume than Brook, why are we talking about this? It still doesn't take away that he hasn't had a top win since 2010 and you're talking as if he's fighting beasts now.

You're the same person who's slating Brook for fighting Diego Chaves, a top 7-8 ranked WW who has fought and been competitive with Thurman, Rios and Bradley and at the same time praises Khan for fighting Algieri, an guy not even ranked at WW and who was the laughing stock of the boxing world in his only other appearance there.

You're hardly one to talk about double standards. Khan would NEVER fight someone like Chaves. EVER.

You're losing the plot, Algieri beat a name to win a World title in your mag's upset of the year, a proven fighter. Chaves has never done anything besides punching hard to the body, bravo!!

Algieri was a laughing stock cuz he said he'd stop Pac or his coach's "out of the cage" non-sense, at least he tried to win, or is standing there getting battered to a pulp like Margarito better? At least he opened up.

Margarito was coming off a loss to Shane Mosley. A hall of famer for the lineal WW crown and a ten rounder.

Khan is coming off wins for no titles against two guys who were coming off losses too

And that deserves Pacquiao? GTFO

Yes, and its not a win, why? Losses are not accomplishments just like punching hard (Chaves) is NOT an accomplishment just like giving tough fights only to lose after is NOT an accomplishment.

Mosley himself was considered done at that point, that win was a shot in the arm, so if Margarito won he wouldn't have been given credit for it.

Alexander alone is good enough, I add Algieri as a supplementary.

[LacedUp]

Porter was already proven regardless.

He hadn't proven himself till then, you can give credit to Alexander for his chin or the fact Matthysse was his comeback opponent after a loss.

How is Khan running scared? That was relevant and of course I agreed to it, when it was. Per this deal it is absolutely irrelevant.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=684524

The way things are going, "our Kell" won't be getting that payday.

You're losing the plot, Algieri beat a name to win a World title in your mag's upset of the year, a proven fighter. Chaves has never done anything besides punching hard to the body, bravo!!

Algieri was a laughing stock cuz he said he'd stop Pac or his coach's "out of the cage" non-sense, at least he tried to win, or is standing there getting battered to a pulp like Margarito better? At least he opened up.

Yes, and its not a win, why? because its a loss.

Oh God, you didn't just pull that up Cringe!

Khan is running scared like a chicken. Who is he to make any demands? He's telling Brook to fight this guy and that guy, when he's fighting featherfisted LWWs.

Maybe Brook should fight Alexander and Algieri too. And then he can claim he's fighting all the top names, taking wear and tear. Absolutely cringey you just brought that bs up. Btw, even since then he's said he's not interested. Chaves is not world class, but he's ranked in the top 10 at welterweight, he's a big WW unlike Algieri who Khan himself called a C level fighter and told everybody Pacquiao was ducking him. Goes in and puts on an absolutely embarrassing display.

Yeah and not to forget he got his ass handed to him big time after talking so much in the build up.

As I said, Margarito took Cotto's soul. That's more than Khan has done in his entire career put together.

[Box-Office]

Is he? I don't know. Besides, Margarito won every round in that fight.

Because it shows where each fighter is coming from. Even in two years Margarito beat undefeated Cotto which absolutely craps all over everything Khan has done in his entire career. You didn't mention that ;-)

So yeah who is better?

I don't think so. I can't possibly see what Khan has done in 3-4 years at the weight , let alone two years that says he's more deserving of guy that took Cotto's soul two years prior to fighting Pacquiao. He might have lost to Mosley, and it was a brutal one-sided beatdown. But Mosley is a great fighter.

In comparison, Khan has been put on the floor by Julio Diaz two years ago, and has been hurt by Chris Algieri, who actually came out with a raised stock. And it was a cherrypick. Come on people.

How was that relevant going in to the Pacquiao bout? 2 years is a long time in professional sports.

[Box-Office]

Oh God, you didn't just pull that up Cringe!

Khan is running scared like a chicken. Who is he to make any demands? He's telling Brook to fight this guy and that guy, when he's fighting featherfisted LWWs.

Maybe Brook should fight Alexander and Algieri too. And then he can claim he's fighting all the top names, taking wear and tear. Absolutely cringey you just brought that bs up. Btw, even since then he's said he's not interested.

Yeah and not to forget he got his ass handed to him big time after talking so much in the build up.

As I said, Margarito took Cotto's soul. That's more than Khan has done in his entire career put together.

Oh well, you can laugh, but your boy isn't. His whole career has been built on cashing out on a "migga migga faaight wiv Ameh Kaan, bey bey". There is a reason Hearn went in to Khan Promotions office and not the other way around. So, much for telling Khan to get in the line for his belt post-Porter interview. LOL. #Levels.

[LacedUp]

How was that relevant going in to the Pacquiao bout? 2 years is a long time in professional sports.

Very relevant. How relevant is Khan's resume now which you bring up every other day? Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Judah, Maidana... First off, hardly anything special and secondly, it was half a decade ago And now you're trying to say taking a fighter like Cotto's 0 doesn't mean anything? Jesus.

Oh well, you can laugh, but your boy isn't. His whole career has been built on cashing out on a "migga migga faaight wiv Ameh Kaan, bey bey".

Khan is going to retire soon. But your house on it. Brook will fight the big names because he wants to fight the best. That's a big difference between him and Khan.

Brook wants Garcia, Bradley, Khan, Pacquiao, Thurman.

Khan wants: Mayweather, Pacquaio - or no fight.

[LacedUp]

What would people say if Brook actually fought someone as soft as Algieri?

He would make him look like Jo Jo Chris, not AlGGGieri like Khan did.