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  • #21
    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
    And Khan hasn't done anything in 3,5 years? Mora was a decent fighter once, much better than Algieri who could have been, and many feel it should, a draw too. It's pointless comparing Bradley to Khan right now as Bradley is on another level entirely.
    Where did I compare Bradley with Khan "now"? I'm going back and comparing what Tim did to deserve a fight with Pacquiao.

    Once, is the key word. He lost a decision, a decision to Brian Vera right after Mosley then the rematch a year later. 2 decision losses to Brian Vera LOL. Not even like he got caught cold like some "decent" fighters do against journeymen.


    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
    Alexander and Algieri wasn't enough. Sure Khan looked good against Alexander, but Alexander isn't a world class fighter and neither is Algieri for that matter, especially not at welterweight. Mosley was an established fighter on the world scene who through his career had dominated several divisions and beat Oscar dela Hoya, fought Mayweather, Cotto, Vargas, Margarito etc. Going through a resume like that you deserve big fights. Despite drawing with Mora his stock would always be higher than Khan's ever was or will be. Simple as that.
    Just earlier in the same post you ask what has Khan done recently then proceed to tell me about Mosley's previous accomplishments. You also tell me how Mora was "once" a good fighter, so cute how you use past accomplishments to justify things when it suits you.

    Again, you haven't addressed Margarito.


    Alexander is not even World class? You've completely lost the plot. That or you're trying your hand at trolling.


    It's great Khan based himself in America, people like you are happy/better suited with guys like Hatton and Brook anyways.
    Last edited by Box-Office; 11-08-2015, 08:23 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PBP. View Post
      Yup. He's making the in house fight
      Probably true.

      It's either Crawford or Bradley.

      Poor Khon gonna be left waiting at the alter again!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
        Where did I compare Bradley with Khan "now"? I'm going back and comparing what Tim did to deserve a fight with Pacquiao.

        Once, is the key word. He lost a decision, a decision to Brian Vera right after Mosley then the rematch a year later. 2 decision losses to Brian Vera LOL. Not even like he got caught cold like some "decent" fighters do against journeymen.

        Just earlier in the same post you ask what has Khan done recently then proceed to tell me about Mosley's previous accomplishments. You also tell me how Mora was "once" a good fighter, so cute how you use past accomplishments to justify things when it suits you.

        Again, you haven't addressed Margarito.

        Alexander is not even World class? You've completely lost the plot. That or you're trying your hand at trolling.

        It's great Khan based himself in America, people like you are happy/better suited with guys like Hatton and Brook anyways.
        You mentioned Bradley, I didn't. Even then Bradley had a better resume than Khan does now with undefeated Alexander, Witter, Holt, Campbell, Peterson, Abregu all on his resume. He hadn't done anything at WW, but he was the champ at 140 and had a good resume there.

        Yeah as I said, Mosley has a Hall of fame career. That has it's perks. It just so happened that he'd just fought Mayweather, they guy everybody wanted to compare Pacquiao to. I'm not saying that Mosley was at his best or whatever, and as far as I remember Mosley was meant to fight Pacquiao in 2010, but it never happened. Really don't want to excuse this fight because I remember it being a total mismatch even before it happened.

        Margarito came about because Mayweather/Pacquiao negotations fell through. And it was also for a title at 154 - Margarito was mandatory for that title. It was all about Pacquiao fighting for a title in an 8th division. Margarito was a beast anyway, despite losing to Mosley. He had beaten Cotto and others.

        Alexander is definitely not world class. If he was, he'd have a world class name on his resume - Which he obviously doesn't. He has names like Matthysse and Kotelnik, so-so world class, and fights that he really lost. the guy lost every time he stepped up = Not a world class fighter, and certainly not at WW. not really disputable. Although I know you want to do everything to big that average win up - But as you saw in my thread, that got shot down instantly by the entire forum.

        I couldn't care less where Khan is fighting and I don't know why you're trying to say Khan deserves anything when he doesn't. His resume is **** average and he hasn't fought anyone special in 3.5 years, got flattened by Garcia, he's not a world champion and has fought once this year on Spike TV.

        Terence Crawford is in right now, undefeated two weight world champion who's fighting solid opposition.
        Last edited by LacedUp; 11-09-2015, 01:01 AM.

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        • #24
          Khan
          Malinnagi
          Crawford
          Thurman
          Bradley

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
            Khan
            Malinnagi
            Crawford
            Thurman
            Bradley
            Order of least deserving?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
              Order of least deserving?
              Was it that obvious!
              My sarcasm is understood!

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              • #27
                I hope it's crawford. Pacquiao vs Khan is a fight for the casuals.

                If Pacquiao beats crawford and Crawford goes on to have a hall of fame career, Pacquiao's resume will be ****ing spectacular.

                Pacquiao has been fghting for 3 decades and he's still fighting and beating top level opposition. If he beats crawford, then that's just amazing.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                  You mentioned Bradley, I didn't. Even then Bradley had a better resume than Khan does now with undefeated Alexander, Witter, Holt, Campbell, Peterson, Abregu all on his resume. He hadn't done anything at WW, but he was the champ at 140 and had a good resume there.

                  Yeah as I said, Mosley has a Hall of fame career. That has it's perks. It just so happened that he'd just fought Mayweather, they guy everybody wanted to compare Pacquiao to. I'm not saying that Mosley was at his best or whatever, and as far as I remember Mosley was meant to fight Pacquiao in 2010, but it never happened. Really don't want to excuse this fight because I remember it being a total mismatch even before it happened.

                  Margarito came about because Mayweather/Pacquiao negotations fell through. And it was also for a title at 154 - Margarito was mandatory for that title. It was all about Pacquiao fighting for a title in an 8th division. Margarito was a beast anyway, despite losing to Mosley. He had beaten Cotto and others.

                  Alexander is definitely not world class. If he was, he'd have a world class name on his resume - Which he obviously doesn't. He has names like Matthysse and Kotelnik, so-so world class, and fights that he really lost. the guy lost every time he stepped up = Not a world class fighter, and certainly not at WW. not really disputable. Although I know you want to do everything to big that average win up - But as you saw in my thread, that got shot down instantly by the entire forum.

                  I couldn't care less where Khan is fighting and I don't know why you're trying to say Khan deserves anything when he doesn't. His resume is **** average and he hasn't fought anyone special in 3.5 years, got flattened by Garcia, he's not a world champion and has fought once this year on Spike TV.

                  Terence Crawford is in right now, undefeated two weight world champion who's fighting solid opposition.

                  Witter, Urango, Maidana, Bailey. Define world class? Or are you really trolling?

                  Oh the same forum that picked Collazo to stop Khan LOL.

                  So, Brook's best win Shawn Porter beat a guy who isn't even World class to win a belt. Gotcha!
                  Last edited by Box-Office; 11-09-2015, 03:51 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
                    Witter, Urango, Maidana, Bailey. Define world class? Or are you really trolling?

                    Oh the same forum that picked Collazo to stop Khan LOL.

                    So, Brook's best win Shawn Porter beat a guy who isn't even World class to win a belt. Gotcha!
                    Witter, Urango, 40 year old bailey who couldn't even throw a 100 punches over 12 rounds? Absolutely nothing special and certainly not enough to get world class recognition.

                    Maidana was an interesting one, and if not he had clinched 150 times he might have gotten some credit for that. But he doesn't.

                    Yeah, Alexander isn't world class. But at least Porter beat him when he was undefeated at the weight and a champion. Khan beat him when he had lost and nobody thought highly of him.

                    If you honestly think Khan's win over Alexander is as good as Brook's over Porter's you are severely in need of help mate.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                      Witter, Urango, 40 year old bailey who couldn't even throw a 100 punches over 12 rounds? Absolutely nothing special and certainly not enough to get world class recognition.

                      Maidana was an interesting one, and if not he had clinched 150 times he might have gotten some credit for that. But he doesn't.

                      Yeah, Alexander isn't world class. But at least Porter beat him when he was undefeated at the weight and a champion. Khan beat him when he had lost and nobody thought highly of him.

                      If you honestly think Khan's win over Alexander is as good as Brook's over Porter's you are severely in need of help mate.
                      Credit by whom? You? Is that even relevant?

                      We can pick apart any resume, at least there is something to pick apart, where do we even start with Kell Brook?

                      Again, if Alexander isn't World class, then define World class?

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