Arum:Khan or Crawford for Pacquiao in April

[LacedUp]

Credit by whom? You? Is that even relevant?

We can pick apart any resume, at least there is something to pick apart, where do we even start with Kell Brook?

Again, if Alexander isn't World class, then define World class?

By me and everyone else who watched that fight. Probably not you since you're desperate to big up what is nothing but a solid WW win.

I see you keep reflecting on Kell Brook. Why? He beat Shawn Porter convincingly who had showed himself to be a good, strong fighter and proved it again afterwards against Broner which most, incl. you, though Broner would win. As I've said many times, Brook's resume isn't world class yet, but his skills are. Now it's time for him to get his resume there too. He can do that by showing how he competes with Chaves, and comparing that to the two other world class fighters who Chaves has fought.

World class for me is when you can mix it with the best and come out on top. World class fighters lose sometimes, but they do things and have skills that are top notch.

Alexander doesn't really do any of that, and he's lost every time he's stepped up and is now losing to prospects.

Definitely not world class. He might have been considered world class at LWW when he was a champion there, but he's not a world class welterweight.

[Box-Office]

By me and everyone else who watched that fight. Probably not you since you're desperate to big up what is nothing but a solid WW win.

I see you keep reflecting on Kell Brook. Why? He beat Shawn Porter convincingly who had showed himself to be a good, strong fighter and proved it again afterwards against Broner which most, incl. you, though Broner would win.

World class for me is when you can mix it with the best and come out on top. World class fighters lose sometimes, but they do things and have skills that are top notch.

Alexander doesn't really do any of that, and he's lost every time he's stepped up and is now losing to prospects.

Definitely not world class. He might have been considered world class at LWW when he was a champion there, but he's not a world class welterweight.

Your whole premise of slating Khan is that finally you found a new hero in Kell Brook.



Alexander: Witter, Urango, Kotelnik, Bradley, Maidana and Bailey. This run had him unify 140 lbs and win a title at 147 lbs. I factored out Matthysse cuz he wasn't sh.it at the time when Alexander fought him. Won most and lost one.



Anyways, I'm glad you put that out there, cuz Kell Brook is definitely not World class by your definition, all he did was beat Porter who had a win over a non-world class fighter in Alexander right? Hey, at least we got you to say that. Thanks, you can go troll someone else now. "alexander isn't world class" pfff sad!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I hope it's khan.... Just for the entertainment value and to shut khan up

[LacedUp]

Your whole premise of slating Khan is that finally you found a new hero in Kell Brook.

Alexander: Witter, Urango, Kotelnik, Bradley, Maidana and Bailey. This run had him unify 140 lbs and win a title at 147 lbs. I factored Matthysse cuz he wasn't sh.it at the time when Alexander fought him. Won most and lost.

Anyways, I'm glad you put that out, cuz Kell Brook is definitely not World class by your definition, at least we got you to say that. Thanks, you can go troll someone else now. "alexander isn't world class" pfff sad!

No. My reason for slating Khan is that he's deluded and thinks he deserves more than he does. He's not the draw he thinks he is and he's definitely not as good as he thinks he is. He's gassed and his fanboys are ridiculously idiotic. Like claiming Khan beating Alexander is better than Brook beating Porter You literally couldn't make it up.

Yeah all of them were LWWs? Wupti do, Bailey was 39 years old or whatever, fighting bums. Maybe you'd care to tell me who Bailey beat in the 10 years he fought before Alexander? I'll wait on that one.

Maidana showing up out of shape in a new division and got hugged 200 times.

Lost to Kotelnik, lost to Bradley, lost to Matthysse, lost to Khan, lost to Porter and lost to Martinez.

A world class fighter wouldn't lose to all of those guys.

You just simply don't really know what you're talking about, i'm sorry.

Brook is of course a world class welterweight. He just needs to fight good guys consistently so he can get a world class resume.

Same with Khan.

[Box-Office]

No. My reason for slating Khan is that he's deluded and thinks he deserves more than he does. He's not the draw he thinks he is and he's definitely not as good as he thinks he is. He's gassed and his fanboys are ridiculously idiotic. Like claiming Khan beating Alexander is better than Brook beating Porter You literally couldn't make it up.

Yeah all of them were LWWs? Wupti do, Bailey was 39 years old or whatever, fighting bums. Maybe you'd care to tell me who Bailey beat in the 10 years he fought before Alexander? I'll wait on that one.

Maidana showing up out of shape in a new division and got hugged 200 times.

Lost to Kotelnik, lost to Bradley, lost to Matthysse, lost to Khan, lost to Porter and lost to Martinez.

A world class fighter wouldn't lose to all of those guys.

You just simply don't really know what you're talking about, i'm sorry.

Brook is of course a world class welterweight. He just needs to fight good guys consistently so he can get a world class resume.

Same with Khan.

So, wtf does that mean? A fighter is World class or not. You adjust the goal posts to 147, all so you can go back and write an essay on how Porter=Brook goes to HOF.


Let's assume you're correct, you type all that reasoning then proceed to tell me "ummm ahem Brook is World class" How? Oh cuz he beat Porter, hmmm, the Porter whose best win is Alexander, the guy who isn't even World class lol. Brook isn't World class, your logic, not mine.

[HanzGruber]

If he fights Crawford it better be at 140 or close to it. Crawford shouldn't be moving up so fast

[IronDanHamza]

That's a way to simplify things out of proportion.

Rios was coming off a FOTY candidate and Manny was coming off a devastating KO loss. Clottey was coming off what should have been a win against Cotto, a previous Pacquiao victim and top fighter.

Mosley had just fought Mayweather and that was when the fight needed to be compared.

Bradley was unified LWW champion and undefeated.

Khan has done... what lately? Hasn't fought or beaten anyone of note and hasn't looked spectacular or exciting recently.

So yeah, Terence Crawford, undefeated and headlining on HBO, two weight world champion and considered a top P4P fighter in the world.

Clearly he's the better choice.

Maybe if Khan had fought a champion like Kell Brook he would have deserved it. But right now, he just doesn't.

Mosley-Pacauaio should never have happened.

And you didn't mention it but Margarito-Pacquaio defintely shouldn't have happened.

[LacedUp]

So, wtf does that mean? You adjust the goal posts to 147, all so you can go back and write an essay on how Porter=Brook goes to HOF.

Let's assume you're correct, you type all that reasoning then proceed to tell me "ummm ahem Brook is World class" How? Oh cuz he beat Porter, hmmm, the Porter whose best win is Alexander, the guy who isn't even World class lol. Brook isn't World class, your logic, not mine.

As I said, he might have been considered a world class LWW once, but definintely never a world class WW. I said that quite early, you might want to go back and check.

No not really. Porter's best win is arguably Broner also. Porter showed he could come back from defeat and put on a solid performance against another world class-ish fighter. Alexander never proved that.

As I said, Brook has world class skills and does things that are world class + he beat someone else who's world class or close to it. Recently.

As I also said, now he's got to get his resume on track starting with Chaves another top 10 WW and after that we can compare how he did to the two other worldclass fighters Chaves fought.

I know you desperately hate that people think Brook is better than Khan, but a win over a sling of featherfisted LWWs is not changing that.

[LacedUp]

Mosley-Pacauaio should never have happened.

And you didn't mention it but Margarito-Pacquaio defintely shouldn't have happened.

I did say in the post after that Mosley vs Pacquiao was a mismatch and I wouldn't excuse it.

I'm not so sure about Margarito. He gave Pacquiao a good fight and it really only happened because Mayweather fell through. Plus it was a chance for Pacquiao to get a title at 154.

[IronDanHamza]

I did say in the post after that Mosley vs Pacquiao was a mismatch and I wouldn't excuse it.

I'm not so sure about Margarito. He gave Pacquiao a good fight and it really only happened because Mayweather fell through. Plus it was a chance for Pacquiao to get a title at 154.

Margarito was an absolute joke.

"Mandatory" how? Getting brutally destroyed by Mosley and looking like **** fighting a bum in a 10 rounder?

I don't see why it matters that it was a cherrypick for a bull**** 154 on title.

And he didn't give Pacquaio a good fight at all he dominated 11 and a half rounds in a career ending one sided beat down.

Khan deserves it more now than Margarito did then.