Should Same Day Weigh-Ins Return?

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  • Trinidad_Fan
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    #61
    Originally posted by jrrod02
    Why won't these threads end. This topic has been beaten to death.

    People seem to have a problem with day before weigh ins because some fighters put on massive amounts of weight on fight night, but what they fail to realize is that putting on that much weight is more a hinderance than a help. Draining yourself for days only to put on 20+ lbs on fight night hurts you.


    Just look at Rios vs Bradley. Not only was Rios slower, he had no more punch resistance causing feather fisted Bradley to be the first man to KO him. This guy took massive punishment from Pacquiao, but couldn't take punches from Bradley?

    Look at Geale vs Cotto. Geale put on 25 lbs plus in that fight and was annihilated by Cotto.

    The greats know that putting on weight in order to have an advantage isn't a good strategy. That's why the best fighters (Mayweather, Marquez, Hopkins, Pacquiao) always fought and stayed within their weigh in.


    JCC Jr. alone brings your argument crashing down in flames. How many people did Junior beat up solely because he was twice as big as them in the ring? What happened when Junior finally fought in the weight division HE BELONGS IN against someone his own size? He got the crap beat out of him (an alltime fav fight for me).

    This is boxing, not who can put on the most weight so they can outweigh the other guy by 30 pounds.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Motofan
      People would still drain themselves and with such short recovery time you would see more brain injuries because of it.
      This is often times the argument against same day weigh ins. Here is my question.

      After a fighter makes weight, can he not be given a medical exam and if he is determined to be that dehydrated, can the fight not be canceled?

      I know a lot of money rides on fights, but hey. I don't think it would take more than a few good ones getting canceled over this to make an example and get fighters to fight opponents who are their actual size. Isn't that the point of weight divisions to begin with?

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        #63
        Originally posted by Trinidad_Fan
        JCC Jr. alone brings your argument crashing down in flames. How many people did Junior beat up solely because he was twice as big as them in the ring? What happened when Junior finally fought in the weight division HE BELONGS IN against someone his own size? He got the crap beat out of him (an alltime fav fight for me).

        This is boxing, not who can put on the most weight so they can outweigh the other guy by 30 pounds.
        Prime example.
        I liked JCC Jr. at first and cheered for him against Maravilla, but hell, let's face it. Maravilla would have probably knocked him out had Jr. weighed what he should have. He was a cruiserweight fighting a middleweight. And that last round rally would have never happened either. Was so unfair and I'm not a Maravilla fan either. But wrong is wrong.

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          #64
          Originally posted by New England
          lol stfu.


          the friday weigh ins were introduced to get people to gamble at the casinos for two nights instead of one.
          You're so right.

          Trace it all back to the money. Works every time. Same with all of the belts and extra weight divisions.

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          • JJRod
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            #65
            Originally posted by Trinidad_Fan
            JCC Jr. alone brings your argument crashing down in flames. How many people did Junior beat up solely because he was twice as big as them in the ring? What happened when Junior finally fought in the weight division HE BELONGS IN against someone his own size? He got the crap beat out of him (an alltime fav fight for me).

            This is boxing, not who can put on the most weight so they can outweigh the other guy by 30 pounds.
            Please look at the quality of opponents he was beating, then get back to me.

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            • _Gatti_
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              #66
              Originally posted by !WAR CANELO!
              because people drain themselves and no matter what day the weigh in is it wont stop that fact.
              well maybe they should fight at the weight they are.

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                #67
                Originally posted by _Gatti_
                well maybe they should fight at the weight they are.
                they should but they wont that just how it is.

                lots of **** is like that in life. should wait before opening up your legs but we all know she opening up those legs at 15, dude should wrap it up but we all know he going to go in raw before turning down some pussy. Motherfuckers should stop smoking but we all know they gonna buy another pack on payday.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                  Prime example.
                  I liked JCC Jr. at first and cheered for him against Maravilla, but hell, let's face it. Maravilla would have probably knocked him out had Jr. weighed what he should have. He was a cruiserweight fighting a middleweight. And that last round rally would have never happened either. Was so unfair and I'm not a Maravilla fan either. But wrong is wrong.
                  Look at the quality of opponents JCC was beating though. He didn't beat Maravilla and if you take away one miraculous round in that fight, Sergio pretty much pitched a shut out. This also happened to be Chavez at his best conditioned.

                  Other than that the guys he beat he probably would have beaten anyway because they were no good. Are you going to tell me that John Duddy, Peter Manfredo, and Brian Vera were HOF fighters?

                  And I'm not going to say that size doesn't play a small advantage, but in the long run it hurts them more than it helps.
                  Last edited by JJRod; 11-23-2015, 11:00 PM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jrrod02
                    Look at the quality of opponents JCC was beating though. He didn't beat Maravilla and if you take away one miraculous round in that fight, Sergio pretty much pitched a shut out. This also happened to be Chavez at his best conditioned.

                    Other than that the guys he beat he probably would have beaten anyway because they were no good. Are you going to tell me that John Duddy, Peter Manfredo, and Brian Vera were HOF fighters?

                    And I'm not going to say that size doesn't play a small advantage, but in the long run it hurts them more than it helps.
                    One question.

                    Is a middleweight fighting a cruiserweight fair?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Rath
                      so this is your best comeback?

                      after talking about my daddy's penis, now you are talking about my language?

                      ican debate you in your language, can you debate me in mine?

                      genius floyd fan who is smarter than me.
                      No...i don't speak peasant. Go back to the mayweather iv thread.

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