Comments Thread For: Arum: Golovkin's True Tests Are at 168, Like Ramirez

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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    Lol they really think that GGG beating up on low level skilled guys with little amateur experience at MW is gonna translate to beating Olympic Gold medalists at 168. The difference in skill level would be a shock to GGG and his fans. They'd come up with all kinds of excuses like "off night", "too small", "age catching up".
    Originally posted by SteveM
    You should think before you write. It is unlikely that the 2003 Amateur world champion and Olympic silver medalist is going to be in awe when he sees an Olympic gold medalist standing across the ring. Respectful yes. In shock no.
    Good point.

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    • jqSide
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      #32
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      Ggg might end up the next Broner if he ever moves up. Broner looked awesome when he was fighting at lower weight classes and against tomato cans just lie ggg does now. He'll never, ever, ever, move up in weight. Write it down, photo it, snapchat it, and frame it.
      Broner got exposed by semi-retired Malignaggi and mediocre Maidana. GG can only be exposed by a P4P #2 doe.

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      • kafkod
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        #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Don't generalize. we are talking only about GGG and in this case, no.
        Cotto and Canelo are reluctant to fight GGG. SO without those fights its what you as a fan want to see more.

        You are choosing what you believe is an easy KO win over a tougher test that GGG might not win. Aren't you bored with easy wins yet?

        WHy are you so afraid to see him tested?
        What do you mean don't generalise?

        Why not?

        Because GGG's fans supposed to be different from every other fighter's?

        Floyd's fans all believed he could beat Paquiao. But I didn't hear any of them screaming for him to forget about Manny, move up and test himself against GGG instead.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          This is clearly just Bob hyping his guy & his upcoming fight. How more obvious could he be?

          Like back in the day when he'd mention Floyd vs Manny every time Manny had a fight coming up. Its a great tactic of associating your fighter with a better &/or more popular fighter to built up your own fighters perceived high level of skill & increase his popularity.

          There is no way Bob is throwing Zurdo in with GGG after just 2 more fights. Anyone who's been paying attention should realize this.
          Arum did the same thing when Ramirez was getting ready to face Edwards. His agenda is transparent.

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            #35
            GGG Haters make NO Sense

            GGG haters say he is a fraud and that he only fights bums. And they say Ward is the best.

            Then they say GGG should fight Ward.

            Why should he fight the best if he is a fraud?

            When GGG wants to go the B-hop route to stardom, become undisputed middleweight champ, they say no, he needs to fight Ward, who they claim is the best

            Although Ward hasn't fought 168 in two years.

            So they say there is no reason for GGG to face the Cotto/Canelo winner because he wins easily.

            So why would Ward fight GGG if Ward is gonna win easily?

            What kind of circling reasoning is this.

            Let GGG dominate the MW and then look to bigger fights.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #36
              Originally posted by kafkod
              What do you mean don't generalise?

              Why not?

              Because GGG's fans supposed to be different from every other fighter's?

              Floyd's fans all believed he could beat Paquiao. But I didn't hear any of them screaming for him to forget about Manny, move up and test himself against GGG instead.
              dude this situation is unique. GGG is a top MW but the MW champs are undersized and have a lot of control given how much they generate. They will likely not fight him. Is it fair, no. It is where we are.

              Using Floyd is a poor example on your part. Floyd did go up while waiting for Manny to fight him, twice in fact. Had Manny not gotten those stitches, it likely would've been Floyd/MAnny before he went to jail.

              You keep avoiding the question-what do you as a fan want to see more-GGG in tough or GGG in with another MW that is a huge underdog?

              If you want the latter, just say it. If watching someone you like get easy wins, is what you want, cool.

              There is more glory and respect in moving up than there is in unification for GGG.

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              • kafkod
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                #37
                Originally posted by Fetta
                Can you imagine if GGG decides to move up now.....
                Then claims he's got a bad knee and changes his mind when Ward moves back down?

                That would be hilarious.

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                • tokon
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  I think its clear the best tests for GGG are at 168. His diehard fans already thinks he blows away all MW's and any 154lbers that step up.

                  Hopefully, he dares to be great.
                  this may very well be the case.

                  but primarily because golovkin is a natural 160lb-er, and not a particularly big one at that.

                  so he can't just be a great 160lb-er? e.g. like Hagler, Monzon, etc.

                  he has to give height, reach, weight away to be great?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Lol they really think that GGG beating up on low level skilled guys with little amateur experience at MW is gonna translate to beating Olympic Gold medalists at 168. The difference in skill level would be a shock to GGG and his fans. They'd come up with all kinds of excuses like "off night", "too small", "age catching up".
                    As if GGG wasn't like 355-4 in the amateurs... I don't think he would be shocked at all..

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                    • SteveM
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kiaba360
                      Arum did the same thing when Ramirez was getting ready to face Edwards. His agenda is transparent.
                      Ramirez was on the phone to Bob immediately "... like when the **** did I agree to that?"

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