1995 James Toney vs Current Kovalev

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I think your issue is my use of mid level. I am not saying mid level is top 10. I'm saying mid level as in the level of guys he beat is average at best.
    I think the term average is a very generous term to use.

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    • Kigali
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      #52
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Kovalev easily wins. Only Toney's great chin saves him from being KOed.


      That's the rabies talking.


      Toney beats the **** outta' Kovalev.

      Those right hands would light his ass up.

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      • Kigali
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        #53
        Originally posted by OTHINN
        LOLOLOLOLOOL

        Toney by massacre

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        • Kigali
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          #54
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          That would be a great fight. Toney was too inconsistent to count on at light heavyweight, I'd pick Kovalev. If Toney showed up, though, it's a FOTY that Toney might stop Kovalev in.
          Look at kovalev's resume

          Not ONE puncher...not ONE.

          Toney takes out the trash in this matchup.

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          • CatchAndShoot
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            #55
            I actually think Kovalev has a really good chance of winning. Toney would eat you alive if you were the type to initiate your punches, then come too close, and smother your punches, and miss him while he's slipping and sliding. Kovalev starts almost every combination with a really explosive jab, and keeps you at the end of his punches, even when he's jumping in with his barrage.

            I think it's a 50/50 fight tbh. People are forgetting how damn explosive and quick Kovalev is, and that he doesn't get too close, and smother his own punches. He has the quickest feet in the LHW division, today, and we know Toney wasn't the most agile fighter. He had really quick and deceptive little bursts of footwork, but not the type to cover a lot of distance like Kovalev. Really tough fight for both, and Toney's not getting KO'd. Are you crazy?

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              #56
              Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
              I actually think Kovalev has a really good chance of winning. Toney would eat you alive if you were the type to initiate your punches, then come too close, and smother your punches, and miss him while he's slipping and sliding. Kovalev starts almost every combination with a really explosive jab, and keeps you at the end of his punches, even when he's jumping in with his barrage.

              I think it's a 50/50 fight tbh. People are forgetting how damn explosive and quick Kovalev is, and that he doesn't get too close, and smother his own punches. He has the quickest feet in the LHW division, today, and we know Toney wasn't the most agile fighter. He had really quick and deceptive little bursts of footwork, but not the type to cover a lot of distance like Kovalev. Really tough fight for both, and Toney's not getting KO'd. Are you crazy?
              Tyson fans don't know ****.

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              • CatchAndShoot
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                #57
                Originally posted by Kigali
                Tyson fans don't know ****.
                Yeah, I actually break down, and asses their style, and not just go off their names. Typical hipster boxing fan.

                And you're not a Tyson fan? What are you a ***?

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DreamerUSA
                  As big of a Toney fan as I am, Kovalev is all wrong for him. He could always catch Kovalev like he did Nunn, but outside of that he gets boxed to death.
                  I'm surprised people still underestimate Kovalev after the Ward fight. You can get inside and give him trouble but the man is deadly at range, and Toney isn't a fighter that gets inside of you. Not against anyone with Kovalev's skill.

                  That fight showed Kovalev is just a tough, tough man to outbox at range.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    I'm surprised people still underestimate Kovalev after the Ward fight. You can get inside and give him trouble but the man is deadly at range, and Toney isn't a fighter that gets inside of you. Not against anyone with Kovalev's skill.

                    That fight showed Kovalev is just a tough, tough man to outbox at range.
                    Agreed. He is an excellent range boxer.

                    Ok, won't be easy for Toney, but for win Kovalev can't rely only on the jab. He will need to be in range, and Toney's jab was wicked when his opponent jabbed with him.

                    Some here picking Kovalev easy, or by KO; that is just bonkers. No fooking way Kovalev easily wins or KOs one of the toughest and most slick fighters to ever live.

                    Also, Toney at 175 lbs could **** hard. What happens when he lands that clean hard right hand? I think the only stoppage result HAS to be Sergey getting stopped. It's a million to one that Sergey stops iron chinned Toney.

                    I really think Toney cannot lose here. To beat an on form Tiney, Kovalev needs to hit him and be in range to do so. That is where he gets hit back more.

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                    • John Locke
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                      #60
                      Toney by late stoppage or Kovalev by close decision. I just don't trust Kova's engine and durability.

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