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  • #41
    Originally posted by Bram View Post
    One name which comes to mind, unfortunately, is Ricardo Lopez. If you go back to the original 8 classes, you eliminate strawweight which is where he spent his prime and he was small at the weight and didn't move up until the final part of his career. If he had to go all the way up to 112 and fight the likes of Too Sharp Johnson and Yuri Arbachakov, because of how good they were and BIG compared to him (and he probably could have made 100lbs. in his prime), I don't think that, as masterful as he was, Finito Lopez wins a title.
    That's a good point and you could very well be right. I think Lopez was awesome too. He would have definitely had some significant wins though.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by anthonydavid11 View Post
      That's a good point and you could very well be right. I think Lopez was awesome too. He would have definitely had some significant wins though.
      He definitely would have, but you would have taken all of those guys - Lopez, Carbajal, Gonzalez, Alvarez, Sanchez... - all of them would have had to go up to 112 and if it's just one champion, I don't think any of them get by Johnson. I definitely think there're too many 'world champions', but I don't have a problem with the number of weight classes. Lopez may've been the most technically sound guy I have ever seen and had we still had 8 weight classes, we would have never gotten to see him at his absolute best.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Bram View Post
        He definitely would have, but you would have taken all of those guys - Lopez, Carbajal, Gonzalez, Alvarez, Sanchez... - all of them would have had to go up to 112 and if it's just one champion, I don't think any of them get by Johnson. I definitely think there're too many 'world champions', but I don't have a problem with the number of weight classes. Lopez may've been the most technically sound guy I have ever seen and had we still had 8 weight classes, we would have never gotten to see him at his absolute best.
        Or it's possible he would have performed even better at a higher level of opposition. There was no reason for him to and so he didn't. We probabaly never saw his true potential.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by anthonydavid11 View Post
          Or it's possible he would have performed even better at a higher level of opposition. There was no reason for him to and so he didn't. We probabaly never saw his true potential.
          It's possible. He wasn't the greatest athlete, but as a fighter Ricardo Lopez was nearly flawless and it's hard to imagine him being any better than he was. That guy had every single punch in his arsenal, could counter absolutely anything and could brawl and box both at GREAT levels. I can remember hoping that he had gone up in weight earlier, but I don't think he had in him, 105 was his class.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Bram View Post
            It's possible. He wasn't the greatest athlete, but as a fighter Ricardo Lopez was nearly flawless and it's hard to imagine him being any better than he was. That guy had every single punch in his arsenal, could counter absolutely anything and could brawl and box both at GREAT levels. I can remember hoping that he had gone up in weight earlier, but I don't think he had in him, 105 was his class.
            My main point is that I would have loved to see him face Carbajal and Gonzalez back in those days and had there only been flyweight, those dream fights would have happened.

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            • #46
              Yeah. Definitely, I completely agree.

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              • #47
                Another fighter who would have got bigger fights was Mike McCallum. There would be no junior middleweight class and so he'd be at middle where Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran were. Surely he would have got a fight with one of them.

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                • #48
                  Floyd mayweather

                  Jr middleweight champ-paper champ
                  Jr welterweight champ-paper champ

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                  • #49
                    your favorite fighters wouldent be undefeated (includes mawyeather too)

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                    • #50
                      Broner
                      Byrd
                      Ruiz
                      Wilder
                      Berto
                      Ortiz
                      Ghost
                      Porter
                      Alexander
                      Sturm
                      Etc
                      Etc

                      Honestly the list is endless,,, pretty every dude that win a paper title..

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