What Fighters Would Have Never Been Champions?

[M Bison]

I don't see Ricky Hatton getting there either. He did some fine work at 140, but almost nothing at 147. He would have a shot at 135 probably.

I don't see Luis Collazo ever winning the title either, although he would have provided a decent defense for the champion.

Rafael Ruelas wouldn't have made it either. A quick IBF reign at lightweight where he nearly lost to Freddie Pendleton followed by meager opponents until getting starched against De La Hoya.

One interesting match-up that would've happened most likely in the '90s would be Calzaghe and Hopkins since Calzaghe would probably choose to fight at middleweight instead of light heavyweight. That would be a tough one to call, but way more exciting that the fight they actually did put on.

I think Miguel Cotto is a name to definitely to add to the list as well, can we ever say he was undoubtedly the best/strongest in his divisions of 147 or 154?
I don't think so, plus when you look at what Trout did to him it rings alarm bells even more.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Adrien "fking" Broner...paper champ

miguel cotto...mw champ

quacken stevenson

i love manny pacquiao, but at least half of his titles, lol

roy jones, hw champ

Yes, half of Manny's would be gone. Haha.

Of course, half of Mayweather's and De La Hoya's would be as well.

Even my favorite Roberto Duran would have never got the junior middleweight title and maybe not even the middleweight, although it isn't out of the question that Hearns could have been the undisputed champion and lost to Barkley before Duran.

And of course, Erik Morales would have never won a 140 pound title. he would have been featherweight and probably lightweight champion but no higher.

[gauze]

James Toney (say what you want but when he faced the best of his division he ALWAYS lost)

yeah right. who cares about his middleweight run, dude beat jirov's ass who was pretty much the consensus number 1 at cruiserweight at that time. im pretty sure toney was the the underdog in that fight too

[-Kev-]

Hatton would have been a champion at 140, he beat the man to beat there, Kostya Tszyu. He beat the Ring champion. Tszyu won it fair and square by being #1 ranked JWW and beating the #2 ranked JWW Zab Judah. And Hatton beat Tszyu. So yeah, Hatton was a legit champion at 140. You are right about 147, he wouldn't won a title there, neither would Collazo.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I think Miguel Cotto is a name to definitely to add to the list as well, can we ever say he was undoubtedly the best/strongest in his divisions of 147 or 154?
I don't think so, plus when you look at what Trout did to him it rings alarm bells even more.

Yes, I like Cotto but I've never thought he was great. He gives a hell of an effort and is often fun to watch, but one of the greats? I just don't see it. And yes, his title victories have always come against easy marks although I'm not saying he planned it that way. Got lucky more or less.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Hatton would have been a champion at 140, he beat the man to beat there, Kostya Tszyu. He beat the Ring champion. Tszyu won it fair and square by being #1 ranked JWW and beating the #2 ranked JWW Zab Judah. And Hatton beat Tszyu. So yeah, Hatton was a legit champion at 140. You are right about 147, he wouldn't won a title there, neither would Collazo.

Oh no. You're totally right. Hatton beat the man there, no doubt.

What I meant was that with 8 divisions, 140 wouldn't exist. So there would be no title to win. I'm guessing Tszyu would have fought at lightweight. And Hatton would have too. And the result would have been the same IMO.

[-Kev-]

8 might be primitive, but come on. 17 is ludicrous. Look at those lower weights. Cut out strawweight and junior flyweight and just have 112 pound limit. If you don't weight 112 pounds, why do you even want to box?

Super flyweight- 115 up from 112? Come on now. Another one gone.

Junior featherweight- 122 from 118 and down from 126? I'd drop that one, too.

Junior Lightweight- 130 between 126 and 135? Gone.

My idea was heavyweight- 200 and up. Light heavyweight- 185-199. Super Middleweight- 170-184. Middleweight- 160-169. Welterweight- 150- 159. Lightweight- 140-149. Featherweight- 130-139. Bantamweight- 120-129. Flyweight- 110- 119. 9 divisions. Very simple to keep up with.

You make a good point. I hate that at the lower weights, every pound you move up is like a weight class.

You got guys down there being "3 weight champions", then you see how many lbs is that and they moved up a total of less than 10lbs within those 3 weight classes. It's crazy that from Minimumweight to Flyweight is 4 weight class and only 10lbs.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

You make a good point. I hate that at the lower weights, every pound you move up is like a weight class.

You got guys down there being "3 weight champions", then you see how many lbs is that and they moved up a total of less than 10lbs within those 3 weight classes. It's crazy that from Minimumweight to Flyweight is 4 weight class and only 10lbs.

Exactly. That isn't making things more even. That's just corruption to get sanctioning fees period.

[The plunger man]

Chris algieri
Joe calzaghe
Amir Khan
Adrien broner
Paul malignaggi
Milton mccrory
Tony tucker
Arthur Abraham
Peter quiilen
Rid**** bowe
There's loads more

[Tony Trick-Pony]

This would have made things interesting for the Klitschkos. I'm sure they could both be champions based on ability, but only one would be able to hold the title which would be awkward. I suppose Vitali would have stepped aside for Wladimir if he was champion. He'd be like a gate keeper for anyone wanting to face his brother. Of course that's kind of how they were anyway.