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  • nacho daddy
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    #81
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    A better fight like who? You know how much he gets paid and then factor in what the main event costs so yes it was always going to be someone **** who would accept low money and the opportunity.

    I don't think it's because he "needs" the tune-up, its because he's fighting on such a huge card and the exposure is great for a future big fight against Kovalev.

    I think his next fight has to be against someone a lot better though because he'll probably headline his own card but who is at Light Heavyweight who he can face? Pascal maybe if he doesn't get totally obliterated in the rematch with Kovalev.....
    after pascal gets killed it would be a perfect match for ward
    Last edited by nacho daddy; 10-29-2015, 04:06 PM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by BrometheusBob
      You're right, GGG isn't preparing for a Canelo fight or anything like that....oh wait
      Oh yes , let's not forget that GGG who's too good and too strong for his own 160 division is looking for new competitors SOUTH of 160 ,lmao
      Last edited by SugarRaRobinson; 10-29-2015, 04:24 PM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        So I'm asking you who since you seem to have more knowledge on it than me. Who good was going to take peanuts to fight as an opponent for Ward?

        I'm suggesting the opponent is irrelevant and was always going to be someone ****. Brand, Agnew, Murdock....who really cares? It's a showcase for Ward and exposure.
        That's his problem. Regardless of the reasons for why this fight is taking place, he's not fighting a quality fighter yet again. I'm calling him out for fighting a couple of doodoo fighters in a row. If you believe by agreeing to be on this ppv he put himself in a position where he was going to have to take on someone of low quality (I disagree that he couldn't do better than Brand, but let's say I didn't) that still wouldn't change the fact that 1) he could have decided not to be on this PPV and that 2) this fight is doodoo.
        Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 10-29-2015, 04:06 PM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
          And GGG's the last 4 ?
          U would conveniently start at the exact year mark that the Super 6 ended , but I guess that's the only way u can make GGG seem somewhat equal to Ward .
          Where did I mention GGG? You said Ward was top p4p and I pointed out that his resume these past 4 years is mediocre. Maybe you, like jerk diggler, is measuringcurrent p4p status based on entire careers. That's ok albeit odd. If Hagler chose to return you guys would have to put him in the top 3 p4p at once.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            So I'm asking you who since you seem to have more knowledge on it than me. Who good was going to take peanuts to fight as an opponent for Ward?

            I'm suggesting the opponent is irrelevant and was always going to be someone ****. Brand, Agnew, Murdock....who really cares? It's a showcase for Ward and exposure.
            Gonzalez was Hbos first choice. Ward turned him down a month ago. Apparently turned down Barrera as well

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            • boliodogs
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              #86
              Ward has the nerve to trash GGG's opposition when GGG just fought a world champion middleweight. Ward is about to fight an unranked 168 pounder at Ward's new weight of 175. A boxer of Ward's experience, great, undefeated record and well proven skills should be fighting a top 10 world ranked light heavyweight. This is a cherry pick and Ward will win a very one sided fight.

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              • SugarRaRobinson
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                #87
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Where did I mention GGG? You said Ward was top p4p and I pointed out that his resume these past 4 years is mediocre. Maybe you, like jerk diggler, is measuringcurrent p4p status based on entire careers. That's ok albeit odd. If Hagler chose to return you guys would have to put him in the top 3 p4p at once.
                I just figured that since u hate on Ward , then naturally u defend and protect as well as aggrandize GGG and his KO Can spree , because those characteristics usually go hand and hand . Am I wrong ? If so please correct me immediately .

                If Hagler returned today to 160 , I'd have him as #1 P4P over little g in that division on balls alone , of which GGG seems to be missing one
                Last edited by SugarRaRobinson; 10-29-2015, 04:18 PM.

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                • SUBZER0ED
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  So I'm asking you who since you seem to have more knowledge on it than me. Who good was going to take peanuts to fight as an opponent for Ward?

                  I'm suggesting the opponent is irrelevant and was always going to be someone ****. Brand, Agnew, Murdock....who really cares? It's a showcase for Ward and exposure.
                  I don't expect Ward to fight any truly top notch fighters before facing Kovalev, but why not face those who made Kov work? Old man Hopkins- who took him the full 12, Agnew-who actually took Kovalev to round 7. How about Cleverly or Boone or Simakov (oops, he's dead)? At least these guys actually fight @ LHW and have more name recognition than Ward's last & next opponent. Only Hopkins would be expensive.
                  Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 10-29-2015, 04:23 PM.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by BrometheusBob
                    That's his problem. Regardless of the reasons for why this fight is taking place, he's not fighting a quality fighter yet again. I'm calling him out for fighting a couple of doodoo fighters in a row. If you believe by agreeing to be on this ppv he put himself in a position where he was going to have to take on someone of low quality (I disagree that he couldn't do better than Brand, but let's say I didn't) that still wouldn't change the fact that 1) he could have decided not to be on this PPV and that 2) this fight is doodoo.
                    Why would he decide not to be on one of the biggest shows of the year?

                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    Gonzalez was Hbos first choice. Ward turned him down a month ago. Apparently turned down Barrera as well
                    Sorry if I don't take the word of a proven manipulator of the truth but I'm going to need some actual evidence. Who the hell is Barrera anyway?

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                      I don't expect Ward to fight any truly top notch fighters before facing Kovalev, but why not face those who made Kov work? Old man Hopkins- who took him the full 12, Agnew-who actually took Kovalev to round 7. How about Cleverly or Boone or Simakov, who also took him to 7? At least these guys actually fight @ LHW and have more name recognition than Ward's last & next opponent. Only Hopkins would be expensive.
                      Hopkins? Lol....Hopkins has stated several times that he'd never face Andre Ward and that fight wouldn't go on the undercard of Cotto-Canelo which is the crux of my argument. Also rules out Cleverly since he just fought. Ward has already beaten Boone and isn't Simakov the guy who DIED?

                      Agnew isn't any better or worse than Brand from what I can see. So it's like....who cares? It's not as if people were going to be creaming had he chose Agnew.

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