Comments Thread For: Andre Ward-Alexander Brand: Kenny Bayless as Third Man

[BrometheusBob.]

You are kidding right? Please say you are.

Are you really going to deny that Paul Smith and Alexander Brand are weak opponents for an elite fighter?

[STEELHEAD]

is wards team at fault for his prima donna attitude or is ward just full of his own sht and just talking out his a*s?

[SugarRaRobinson]

Well that was 5 years ago and he hasn't done much since yet he's still being represented as if he's still a top fighter (it'd be no different than proclaiming a guy a P4P king just by coming out of retirement but hasn't proven it. The hate is warranted for sure.

December of this year will mark the 4th year commencement of Froch vs Ward which concluded the super 6 . People who's goal is to marginalize Ward seem to wanna add on years .

P4P is a distinction that has to be given to someone , so if not Ward , then who ? Kov , with his best win being Pascal ? GGG , with his best win being PePe Lemeu ? Hi-Tech , with his record being 4-1 ? Klitschko , may be a good candidate but if your one of the ones who says Ward clinches a lot then I seriously doubt u consider Klitchko .

Point being , realistically , there should only be about 4 names considered in the p4p top 5 , which are : Ward , Klitschko , Rigo and maybe , Chocolatito although Im not familiar with who he's fought as I don't follow that weight class , but I have watched him fight and he is amazing .

There could realistically be some who r better than the ones I named , but don't yet have the resume's to prove it .

[STEELHEAD]

Are you really going to deny that Paul Smith and Alexander Brand are weak opponents for an elite fighter?

not weak opponents but not on the same level.

[BattlingNelson]

Why does a elite fighter away from the ring 2 years need tuneups before he fights the baddest man Kovalev ? If you don't comprehend why you are no boxing fan no knowledge. No one wants to fight him or he would fight better tuneups. To bad ggg didn't want any

Who else can you name that has taken that many tuneups?

[Raonic]

Does not change the fact that it happened. And from what I have seen he still looks sharp.

Floyd took a 2 year layoff and then fought once a year for 4 yrs. Doesn't change the fact he dominated.

Except that's not the point.

For all we know, the only reason he looked sharp is because he fought Paul Smith and that he wouldn't look the same fighting a top notch fighter (the EXACT reason people criticize fighters like GGG, Wlad, Gonzalez etc because of their competition).

I have no doubts that Ward is the same talented fighter and he'd beat anyone from 160-175 (I'd favour Kovalev but I think Ward has a good chance of beating him) but I'm not going to give him the merit of a #2 P4P ranking simply because of that.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Who else can you name that has taken that many tuneups?

Well Golovkin has taken about 35 or something so Ward has a long way to go before he catches up.

[BattlingNelson]

Ward gets most hate on this site. No one remembers how easily he won the super 8 cleaned out the whole SM division. He barely lost rounds beat Froch with 1 good hand. Didn't cherry pick it was round robin elimination. If he beats Kovalev will Floyd groupies finally give him props? Floyd never fought someone In their prime only Castillo and he lost and corrales he won easy

I dont remember that super 8 thing. Was that some local movie tourney?

[SugarRaRobinson]

This fight is exactly why people are bringing up the rest of Ward's resume in other threads.

The Ward defense squad is out in full force asking us about whose overall competition is the softest to deflect from the fact that back here in the present Ward's competition is softer than cookie dough.

If a guaranteed Kovalev fight doesn't prove to u that Ward has very high aspirations , then nothing will . The same people (like yourself) who complain about Ward fighting a Can or two , are the same people who praise GGG for knocking over 26 Cans in a row awhile scouting for his 27.

[BrometheusBob.]

Well Golovkin has taken about 35 or something so Ward has a long way to go before he catches up.

Pft.

Alexander Brand is not even a Willie Monroe Jr, and that was the weakest opponent GGG has fought in recent memory.

Face it, Ward's competition level has fallen below that of GGG's at this point.