Isnt it time we 'derecognise' the WBA?

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  • techliam
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    #51
    Originally posted by Luiz
    Idk how it works but Japanese commission don't allow WBA interim. Others commissions could follow the step.
    The JBC are able to do that as they have very strict control over the sport over there. For example, they have a gym system which many people don't know about and would find strange. It's very rare for two fighters from the same gym to actually fight.

    But commissions in the US are a dime a dozen, if you can't fight for a title in one state commission, you find another. Margarito was able to fight Manny in Texas using this method. In the UK and Europe its much the same thing. Given how EU rules work, boxers are able to apply for licences from any EU commission. David Haye had his BBBC licence revoked, but was able to get a licence from Luxembourg to allow the Chisora fight to happen. All of these commissions would have to implement that rule, and that's very unrealistic.

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    • -PBP-
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      #52
      Originally posted by techliam
      Boxing used to have 1 champion per division.

      Now we have 2 divisions with 4 champions from only 1 sanctioning body

      There's an interim interim champion at both Middleweight and Super Featherweight
      That's just the nature of the business. In a world of one sanctioning body, they would only collect fees in lineal title fights. With all of these cold wars and contract disputes all 4 sancitoning bodies would go out of business.

      I like the idea of a Premier Champion (undisputed champ.) to encourage unifying divisions but that seems to be a long ways away.

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        #53
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        just smh

        I use http://www.tbrb.org/all-rankings/

        usually you would recognize the lineal champ as THEE champ....

        but then you have situations as stevenson-kovalev & cotto-ggg
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        On the flip side of that fighters like Frampton, Quigg and LSC would not have been able to market themselves as champions without facing Rigondeaux.

        1Title per division is so much easier to follow, and much easier fo enforce rules on.

        Stevenson and Cotto would likely either have been stripped by now, or be very close. From there Kov and GGG fight the no.2 for the vacant title. As it stands who cares if they stripped of some mythical title that only hardcores really follow?
        Last edited by Tom Cruise; 11-09-2015, 10:37 AM.

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        • techliam
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          #54
          Thought i'd revive this thread, given the amount of scrutiny the Golovkin detractors are giving the WBA suddenly.

          Some more of the legit decisions made by the WBA in the past couple of years:

          Uchiyama-Fortuna was forgotten about as Fortuna wouldn't accept the money offered for a fight in Japan. Instead of stripping Fortuna, they let Uchiyama fight Corrales (the interim champion) and let Fortuna keep his paper belt, totally bypassing his mandatory obligations.

          Andre Ward last defended his WBA 168lb crown Nov 13 2013. He later decided to vacate this title Nov 15 2015, without fighting once. In other words, he held onto the WBA Super title for 2 years without fighting, and he only lost it by voluntarily vacating it.

          Mayweather-Lara or Mayweather-Thurman was never in the pipeline. May weather seemed immune to mandatories, as the rules didn't apply to him.

          The WBA seem flip floppy over the Golovkin-Jacobs scenario, though I don't know the full facts on this one. I'm not sure when the WBA mandatory is actually 'due'.

          Ricky Burns fought for a vacant WBA 140lb title despite not fighting at 140 for well over a year, and lost that fight. His opponent wasn't in the top 5, or even top 10 of the division as far as I remember.

          No-one actually knows, not even the WBA, what the current arrangements are for the WBA cruiserweight mandatories. Shumenov claims he should be in line for it, but the WBA refuse to clarify, instead allowing Dorticos to fight for a Regular title. This is what happened to Benevidez when Broner got a magic 140lb WBA title shot out of the blue.

          There are no plans to enforce Kovalev-Braehmer, probably due to the WBA's concern for Braehmers wellbeing. The shame of it all really is that Braehmer is actually a decent fighter, but refuses to prove it against any durable competition.

          Felix Sturm is still the WBA super middleweight champion despite failing a drugs test, in a rematch that not many people thought he won. His career is tainted with failed drugs tests and dodgy decisions. The WBA have back Sturm in a number of these scenarios.

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