Exposing the double standards, GGG & Ward.

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  • El-blanco
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    #51
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
    Thurman has made 3million on PBC alone, as well as Broner. Quillin probably made 1.2 million against Lee as well. This is why the purse bid from Roc Nation didn't matter. Free TV + commercials pays the bills for everybody. No drama. Haymon is god.
    Haymon is wasting average people's money on his little scheme. Most of Waddell Reed's investors are average people who trust the company to do something good with their money. Instead, a guy who now works for Haymon, tied their money to a fund that invested in Pbc. That fund will either perform horribly, or if they're lucky, be propped up by the diversity in the fund. Either way they're wasting the people's money. What a virtuous God.

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    • nielon
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      #52
      Originally posted by daggum
      well ward never made it to stardom but your point is wrong anyway. american networks were showing ward before he even became champ. were they showing ggg before ggg became champ? no. no they were not. the entire super six tournament was setup in ward's favor. froch had to fight in 4 different countries...ward 1! they groomed ward for stardom and once he got to the top he turned his back on them and demanded easy fights for big money. meanwhile in order for ggg to get noticed he had to be so impressive that the networks wanted him. ggg had to be not only good but entertaining. ward had the hometown advantage quite literally throughout his career. ggg had to start at zero and create a fanbase from nothing. ward was given a platform as soon as he turned pro and he squandered that cushy platform.
      Ward had to beat Edison Miranda, Mike Kessler, Allan Green, Sakio Bika, Arthur Abraham, Carl Froch and Chad Dawson.....

      GGG had to beat Gabe Rosado (moved up from 154), Proksa? (who is that?), Curtis Stevens (who lost against Marcos Primera, Andre Dirrel and N'DAM), Rubio (who is never been an elite fighter), Lemuex (who's best win is N'DAM)


      Again WARD's road to stardom has been WAY MORE DIFFICULT than GGG's streak of kos, BRO! Thats is not disputable, its self-explanatory

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        #53
        Originally posted by El-blanco
        Haymon is wasting average people's money on his little scheme. Most of Waddell Reed's investors are average people who trust the company to do something good with their money. Instead, a guy who now works for Haymon, tied their money to a fund that invested in Pbc. That fund will either perform horribly, or if they're lucky, be propped up by the diversity in the fund. Either way they're wasting the people's money. What a virtuous God.
        That's not how you TV ratings and shares. With good ratings and share value you can sell your metrics for future investments and evolving platforms. For boxing metrics PBC has done well. This is why general boxing promoters hate that Haymon can do this on a platform beyond just HBO or Showtime. The fact that Haymon did it is crazy alone. Big accomplishment whether people.understand the benefits or not.

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          #54
          Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
          That's not how you TV ratings and shares. With good ratings and share value you can sell your metrics for future investments and evolving platforms. For boxing metrics PBC has done well. This is why general boxing promoters hate that Haymon can do this on a platform beyond just HBO or Showtime. The fact that Haymon did it is crazy alone. Big accomplishment whether people.understand the benefits or not.
          Pbc does COPS ratings for 100 times the budget. That is bad business. The idea can definitely work but not at the current budget.

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            #55
            Originally posted by El-blanco
            Pbc does COPS ratings for 100 times the budget. That is bad business. The idea can definitely work but not at the current budget.
            PBC is fine. Don't worry about it.

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              #56
              Originally posted by nielon
              Ward had to beat Edison Miranda, Mike Kessler, Allan Green, Sakio Bika, Arthur Abraham, Carl Froch and Chad Dawson.....

              GGG had to beat Gabe Rosado (moved up from 154), Proksa? (who is that?), Curtis Stevens (who lost against Marcos Primera, Andre Dirrel and N'DAM), Rubio (who is never been an elite fighter), Lemuex (who's best win is N'DAM)


              Again WARD's road to stardom has been WAY MORE DIFFICULT than GGG's streak of kos, BRO! Thats is not disputable, its self-explanatory
              Oh come on man...

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                #57
                Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                PBC is fine. Don't worry about it.
                I hope so. The best fights have been on it this year. I just don't see how it's sustainable with their current budget. Guys can't keep getting paid a million and getting teen mom 2 ratings.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by AKAcronym
                  Oh come on man...
                  Well the minute Postol KOd everybody called Matthysse a bum.... just saying. How's Matthysse's KO ratio?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by nielon
                    Ward had to beat Edison Miranda, Mike Kessler, Allan Green, Sakio Bika, Arthur Abraham, Carl Froch and Chad Dawson.....

                    GGG had to beat Gabe Rosado (moved up from 154), Proksa? (who is that?), Curtis Stevens (who lost against Marcos Primera, Andre Dirrel and N'DAM), Rubio (who is never been an elite fighter), Lemuex (who's best win is N'DAM)


                    Again WARD's road to stardom has been WAY MORE DIFFICULT than GGG's streak of kos, BRO! Thats is not disputable, its self-explanatory
                    yes he has a better resume but was his road to stardom(what you said) tougher? no it was not. you also didn't dispute how he received special treatment in the super six because its indisputable that he had every fight in his favor. that's an example of how not tough his road was. ggg had to move to a completely different country and impress the networks and fans. you think if ward was from kazakhstan and fought his boring grab style the american networks would want him? lol!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by El-blanco
                      I hope so. The best fights have been on it this year. I just don't see how it's sustainable with their current budget. Guys can't keep getting paid a million and getting teen mom 2 ratings.
                      That sounds like something a rival network would say...and I'm assuming you are comparing the metrics to more regulated sports? PBC has done great coming from the shadows.

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