Comments Thread For: GGG's Coach: If You're Not Real 160, Don't Fight For Title

[Cinci Champ]

not to mention they begged for a fight with mayweather for his 154 pound strap after signing to fight chavez for title and begging froch to fight which would also been for the title at 168. i dont get why ggg fans dont call team ggg out on their bull**** but let me guess that was somehow different because uhhhhhhhhhhhh

[aboutfkntime]

You can't really complain with what they're saying, I've been saying the same thing too and its true you need to view in this fashion If GGG goes to 161 and takes the WBC SMW title and only fights people who will move down every time for him and this is the only way you get a shot at that title.

In principle I agree.

Cotto should have dropped the belt.

Catchweights should be abolished, they are completely unnecessary.

Sanchez is right, if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Catchweights should be one offs not constant fight stipulations that have to be agreed on to make a certain weight class fight happen that is just beyond silly.

I disagree with you about that.

Catchweights should be abolished, they are completely unnecessary.

I dont really understand your position actually.....

The purpose of a catchweight is to enable a fight between two guys who normally would not meet because of weight disparity.

Cotto weighs 153, he is OBVIOUSLY a JMW who is punching above his weight.

If you accept cw's.... EVER.... then you will have to accept that one.

Cotto should dare to be great, but if you accept any kind of weight-leveler within boxing other than the standard divisions, then it will apply to Cotto/Golovkin.

Catchweights are accepted today, and Cotto weighs 153.

Team Golovkin have also used weight manipulation, and unfortunately for them Cotto is the A-side this time..... also, Cotto has been fcuked over by catchweight's himself.....

..... but my real issue is that Team Golovkin have recently stated that Gennady can make 154, and a fight like that is exactly what they need considering their PPV aspirations.

And it was GGG himself who said he can make 154, not Sanchez or Loeffler.

IF Team Golovkin stick to their guns and refuse a catchweight knowing that the winner will be stripped, and that fight falls through as a result..... it will be added to the growing list of fights that Golovkin could have had, but didn't.

That list is growing.

And the guys on that list are much better than the guys on GGG's resume.

Know what I mean ?

There seems to be no reason why a cw request should kill that fight.

[Bardock]

It must be heartbreaking to all the the cotto and canelo fans that there's a middleweight fighter who beats both these overhyped clunges on the same night.....WAR GOLOVKIN

Same night? Fanboys will be fanboys.

[HeroBando]

wasnt chavez ggg and froch ggg going to be fought for a title? im so sick of abel sanchez how about u quit fighting completely overmatched journeyman and chasing 154 pounders. Its funny to they act like they care so much about that title but they have taken step aside money twice now

No, Chavez didn't have a title. Froch did, but its beside the point since GGG wasn't asking for a CW. For overmatched journeymen see that Ward Murdock thread, or this

that was a great fight to watch very entertaining. ggg lemieux has to happen they fight so similar both are the hunters god i want to see that fight please make it happen. something tells me ggg will have some excuse why they cant make it tho i mean god talk about a dream fight it wont last 2 rounds lol

[churchmouse]

I agree with Abel Sanchez. The weight limit is 160 in the middleweight division then that should be the limit, not a ridiculous catch weight. The governing bodies keep allowing this bending of rules and they helped create this mess.

[aboutfkntime]

just ban catchweights

smaller fighters could still fight for the title but it would be a one off, make history sorta deal then they'd move back down and everyone would enjoy the parade

this fight 5 times in a row at 155 and fight a guy who won the title at 159 lbs at 153 lbs **** is depressing

I believe that catchweights should be completely abolished.

History has already provided the blueprint.

In the example you provided above....

IF catchweights were abolished, and a smaller fighter went up and fought "for the title but it would be a one off, make history sorta deal then they'd move back down"..... I would see that as going up to cherry-pick a guy you thought you could beat based on style, and vacating and moving back down immediately would confirm that you are a paper champ.

There may be an exception, but just my opinion.

Nobody would have called Cotto a real champ if he had vacated after the Martinez fight, everyone would have said that Cotto fought an injured Martinez..... and if Martinez had not been injured I'm not sure if Cotto would have beaten him.

I think catchweights should be completely abolished, they are unnecessary.

[Bigg Rigg]

And if you're not a real ppv draw, don't fight on ppv! Lol at 97k record shatterer last weekend.

[Cinci Champ]

No, Chavez didn't have a title. Froch did, but its beside the point since GGG wasn't asking for a CW. For overmatched journeymen see that Ward Murdock thread, or this

ya but bob had it set up to fight for one and no one is making ggg fight them at a catch weight if he dont want to do it dont and hell be champ not that complicated

[Bigg Rigg]

Golovkin can have all the belts and a formidable opponent, still won't ever be a ppv draw. He needs Cotto or Canelo!! They better realize that!! Make the weight that's being asked and if you win, you will become the star you want to be.

[aboutfkntime]

Catchweights are cool, they just shouldn't be allowed for title fights. Problem is that there is a difference between a title fight and a "mega-fight." The WBC can strip Cotto or Canelo, and give GGG the title, but GGG can't get a "mega-fight" without Cotto, Canelo, Mayweather, Pacquiao, or Andre Ward.

If Team Golovkin refuse a catchweight for the winner, knowing that he will be stripped, Cotto/Canelo should refuse to negotiate with him..... EVER.

I actually believe that would happen.

I don't think Golovkin would get a 2nd chance.