Comments Thread For: GGG's Coach: If You're Not Real 160, Don't Fight For Title

[aboutfkntime]

Thats what I dont get.....

not to mention they begged for a fight with mayweather for his 154 pound strap after signing to fight chavez for title and begging froch to fight which would also been for the title at 168. i dont get why ggg fans dont call team ggg out on their bull**** but let me guess that was somehow different because uhhhhhhhhhhhh

Thats what I dont get..... ?

GGG used to fight in the 154-168 division.....

Until Ward made a comeback.....

Then GGG decided to fight in the 154-164 division.....

But then Ward said he will consider a catchweight.....

So GGG decided to fight in the 154-160 division.....

But then the Cotto/Canelo winner said..... " ok " .....

Now GGG fights in the " 159-161 unless-they-pose-a-threat " division.....

Why can't Golovkin just cut the bullshht and fight the winner ?

He wasn't scared of lil feather-fisted Floyd.

[aboutfkntime]

It was Golovkin himself who said he can make 154, not Sanchez or Loeffler.

IF Team Golovkin stick to their guns and refuse a catchweight knowing that the winner will be stripped, and that fight falls through as a result..... it will be added to the growing list of fights that Golovkin could have had, but didn't.

That list is growing.

And the guys on that list are much better than the guys on GGG's resume.

There seems to be no reason why a cw request should kill that fight.

[Joe Beamish]

You can say that Canelo (or Cotto) is "the A side" all you want, but whoever wins their matchup is going to look like a wussy for vacating the belt. Especially Canelo. And it will be part of their legacy.

Personally I don't think Canelo is all that good. Cotto is damn good, but he's taken some serious beatings. He's a bit small for MW.

Did anybody watch Canelo doing nothing against Floyd? Seriously. Of course he doesn't want to fight GGG.

Cotto really is legit too small for GGG. Fair enough.

But when Canelo asks for 155 and then vacates the MW belt to avoid Golovkin, the world will know why.

[uniquehump]

I'm sure this has been said. For the title fight, there shouldn't be a catchweight, regardless of who it is. If Canelo wants to come in at 155 and GGG comes in at 159.5, that should be okay since both are within the middleweight limit. Catchweights should only be for mega fights between two people in two different weight classes. If you are fighting in the same weight class, there should be no catch weight, especially for a title fight. And I'm surprised by Canelo because fight night, he usually weighs a couple more pounds more than GGG. But with all of that said, GGG had his first PPV with a buyrate ranging from around 100,000 to 150,000. If he concedes to Cotto and Canelo's weight demands, he'll have another PPV that'll triple the buy rate of his first one, and if he wins, then he's a star. He needs to do this in order for the public to call Canelo and Cotto out. They both have a lot of pride and don't want their fans and even other past and current boxers to call them out. Also, if Canelo beats Cotto, they already talking about fighting GGG in a couple years. GGG is already 33 and we don't know how long he can be dominant. Ginger has all the time in the world because he's very young and he's already a star, with a couple of stars promoting him.

[aboutfkntime]

No, Chavez didn't have a title. Froch did, but its beside the point since GGG wasn't asking for a CW. For overmatched journeymen see that Ward Murdock thread, or this

So, Golovkin was willing to fight for the title at 168, but he would have defended it against Ward at 164?

[FeFist]

I believe that catchweights should be completely abolished.

History has already provided the blueprint.

In the example you provided above....

IF catchweights were abolished, and a smaller fighter went up and fought "for the title but it would be a one off, make history sorta deal then they'd move back down"..... I would see that as going up to cherry-pick a guy you thought you could beat based on style, and vacating and moving back down immediately would confirm that you are a paper champ.

There may be an exception, but just my opinion.

Nobody would have called Cotto a real champ if he had vacated after the Martinez fight, everyone would have said that Cotto fought an injured Martinez..... and if Martinez had not been injured I'm not sure if Cotto would have beaten him.

I think catchweights should be completely abolished, they are unnecessary.

It depends. In some instances you could go for the low hanging fruit, but there are also instances where the fighter does not want to put himself through the grinder for lesser opponents.

If Ward decided he wanted to continue fighting at 168lb, but moved up in weight to fight Kovalev, I wouldn't call that a cherrypick.

[The plunger man]

Ward has moved to 175.

Golovkin is focusing on middleweight.










Oh, and 154..... except for the winner.

Is that right?

Cant remember whats up now.....

He should focus on the middleweights ...he is a middleweight last time I remembered you hairy clunge.......ward is 175 so he should concentrate on that division he has many a good element waiting with open arms......cotto and canelo are concentrating on the 155 belt.....it's called clunge weight and it weights from 155 to 155 and is between jnr middleweight and middleweight divisions......clunge champion of the world

[nielon]

Truth behind K2 & Gang. Not for the faint hearted.

The truth uncovered

[aboutfkntime]

lol makes sense to punish the guy at 160 for attempting to unify the 160 pound belts. Man boxing fans are the most ******ed fans on earth.

Nobody is stopping him

WTF ?

Nobody at 154, 160 Lasts Twelve With Golovkin.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/sanchez-nobody-154-160-lasts-twelve-with-golovkin--97123

Is that kid crippled ?

Can he fight or what ?

[Butt stuff]

no it's the tacky avatar of choice of some pimpled out dude wearing glasses.

You're the pinnacle of a pseudo intellectual inferiority complex