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  • #51
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    I have to wait till I see the official PPV numbers. I have been bit by early leaked sources of how many PPV's a fighter did early in a week only to see later in the week or the following week get different numbers. For example Mayweather Berto early sources said 500K plus PPV buys. By the end of the week it was at 400K or less PPVs. And I've seen others where early in the week one number and later on the PPV buys was much higher.
    This guy was right. The numbers are even worse.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Nomadic View Post
      Every time you mention the two in the same post it blows up. So I'm pretty sure it will sale.

      Yeah but we're all boxing fans on here, it's a forum dedicated to the sport so we would have massive interest in this fight. I mean this might be the most well known boxing forum on the internet, but i bet there isn't a huge amount of active users and that's worldwide too.

      To sell big number PPV's then you actually need to cross over to casual fans and basically people who don't follow the sport very much.

      These people don't know much about Ward, especially now as he has no momentum and hasn't been active and doesn't have a crossover persona/personality. He just isn't a big name or big draw, no matter how good he is, thats just the fact. And Golovkin isn't a big PPV draw either, although he sells a lot of arena tickets, so i doubt this fight does huge numbers anytime soon.

      That's why GGG needs Cotto/Canelo, they bring the numbers. Ward doesn't, never did and maybe never will.
      Last edited by deathofaclown; 10-22-2015, 04:09 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
        That's why GGG needs Cotto/Canelo, they bring the numbers. Ward doesn't, never did and maybe never will.
        Agree with you about Cotto/Canelo, but I bet Ward vs GGG would sell more what his last fight did, probably double it.
        Last edited by Nomadic; 10-22-2015, 05:04 PM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Nomadic View Post
          Agree with you about Cotto/Canelo, but I bet Ward vs GGG would sell more what his last fight did, probably double it.
          I have no doubt it would, but it still probably wouldn't do even half of what GGG v Cotto/Canelo would do.

          It's nothing to do with their ring abilities, it's just business. Ward can't really draw flies, GGG has proven that he isn't a PPV star on his own. The average guy outside of boxing fans has no idea who Ward is and maybe heard some rumblings about GGG due to his recent press but that's it. So even if it does more than GGG's last fight, it won't be a mouth-watering prospect in terms of business sense, only boxing sense. Unfortunately for you and i, the men that make the decisions are strictly business.

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          • #55
            This fight FLOPPED because they thought they could sell fighting a Hunts Tomato Can, maybe they should've tried Heinz...Nobody wants to watch that bs, we need floyd back, lol. He can come save boxing. It turned out all of the bs alot of you guys were talking about, wasnt true. Wasnt his style supposed to be everything Mayweather wasnt? And he took a giant belly flop. He's not the savior you anti "boxing" fans thought he would be. His team better bring some vaseline when they try to negotiate his next fight against proven ppv sellers (canelo or cotto). It serves them right, with the bs they've been saying. Now if Cotto wins, he's gonna have to chose between Cotto at 158 or Ward (another roc-nation fighter) at 168, lol.

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            • #56
              I don't get it. This forum called Lemieux a bum and many said they aren't going to buy. The number comes out and they act like it's lower than what should've been expected.

              100-150K doesn't indicate a star boxer and he might not be that 1 mil PPV buy boxer, but it's surely a decent PPV debut against a guy most people said they wouldn't watch him fight.

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              • #57
                Lower PPV Prices

                The PPV providers need to be less greedy and start charging a realistic price for these broadcasts. I would have paid $40 to watch this fight in HD, but asking $60 is ridiculous. Also not sure why fights are still offered in standard definition.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Raonic View Post
                  I don't get it. This forum called Lemieux a bum and many said they aren't going to buy. The number comes out and they act like it's lower than what should've been expected.

                  100-150K doesn't indicate a star boxer and he might not be that 1 mil PPV buy boxer, but it's surely a decent PPV debut against a guy most people said they wouldn't watch him fight.
                  Yes some of us knew this guy would'nt be competitive, so I definitely wasnt buying this crap, but a lot of guys were on this very forum were talking about him being the next boxing superstar, and him taking over Mayweathers ppv reign, so yes its a lot lower than what numerous posters have hoped and said it would. He flopped hard. He turned down a fight vs Ward a p4p fighter to fight a can ON PPV, so he got what he deserved. He is not a 1mil PPV boxer only the anti Mayweather crowd had hoped he'd be a big seller. but HE FLOPPED!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by TheCleaner View Post
                    seriously, what the hell is wing with wanting to fight for a 160 title AT 160... boxers thinking they should be able to continue holding titles at weights they've never once fought at. if they want come in light, that's on them, the title is for 160, nothing more to be said!
                    The writer is very knowledgable.....

                    When he heard you guys say that Golovkin is " great "..... he most likely thought you meant great as-in..... can be compared to actual great fighters.

                    He has likely also heard all the comments and hype from Team Golovkin.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
                      Exactly. For a debut, and the fact that people continuously say that the sport is dying, that's a pretty legit buy rate as far as I'm concerned. His first time out as a PPV headliner resulted in him putting up numbers comparable to established stars. Cotto or Canelo will make him a star should he beat either of them. I'm picking Cotto to do the impossible though.
                      Good point. Any idea what numbers Canelo pulled in his PPV debut ?

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