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Be honest, do GGG fans really think he can beat Ward and why?

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  • #51
    I swear its like yesterday Ward had no fans now (Internet) now all of sudden "hella Dck Riding"

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    • #52
      If they were the same size, I would say this is a pretty 50-50 fight with Ward having the slight edge. But with the size and weight advantage, I would say Ward a clear 65-35 favourite.

      He's got the right style to beat GGG, he will smother and not give GGG the distance he needs to land his big shots and just outwork him on the inside. It's not a hard fight to call.

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      • #53
        The courage of GGG fans thinking that a seasoned 168 crafty, skilled, and fast Ward, who ate a big Abraham and Froch strikes, wouldn't eat elite 160 power. Ward would destroy GGG, I don't even know why we debate this. For two years GGG never showed interest in Ward and specifically always talking about middleweight or 160 verbage.

        This is ******.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Ward isn't a LHW yest. Lets say he is.

          The inbetween weight would be 168 now, which is the same weight GGG was willing to fight Chavez Jr and Froch.

          Given that sales failed to meet expectations, maybe a Ward fight at 168 right now is a good idea?
          His last fight was at 172. Until he goes back to fighting within the SMW limits he's a LHW

          What does ppv sales failing to meet expectations have to do with or benefit GGG fighting a guy who can not only draw on free tv, but that cannot even pack an inflatable circus tent? And why would he do that with a much more lucrative and sought after fight amongst most boxing fans against the winner of Cotto/Canelo that the WBC is mandating and will happen unless one or the other drops the title?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
            The courage of GGG fans thinking that a seasoned 168 crafty, skilled, and fast Ward, who ate a big Abraham and Froch strikes, wouldn't eat elite 160 power. Ward would destroy GGG, I don't even know why we debate this. For two years GGG never showed interest in Ward and specifically always talking about middleweight or 160 verbage.

            This is ******.
            I repeat, Ward never did anything to make the fight happen other than grandstand and say what fans want to hear. He did nothing concrete when it came to negotiating the fight. Nothing. And you clowns never called him out for it. Which just goes to show his fans and the 3G haters never really wanted the fight. They're content in being able to say in forums "GGG's ducking doe."

            Show me something concrete where Ward made an effort to make the fight happen. If not, stop the nonsense.

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            • #56
              I'm a GGG fan but I do not believe he can beat Ward. Not because there's a huge difference in skill (GGG is better offensively and Ward is better defensively) or in ring smarts but because Ward has the superior physical attributes of height, weight and reach.

              The old adage goes, "A good big fighter beats a good little fighter".

              GGG's best shot would be to go after Ward early and try and take him out with his power.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                The courage of GGG fans thinking that a seasoned 168 crafty, skilled, and fast Ward, who ate a big Abraham and Froch strikes, wouldn't eat elite 160 power. Ward would destroy GGG, I don't even know why we debate this. For two years GGG never showed interest in Ward and specifically always talking about middleweight or 160 verbage.

                This is ******.
                Abraham is feather fisted at 168, Froch is not a big puncher, he went distance with Abraham, Kessler, Pascal, Dirrell etc... Not to mention that skillwise AA and Froch are bums compared to GGG.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by BreWall View Post
                  I repeat, Ward never did anything to make the fight happen other than grandstand and say what fans want to hear. He did nothing concrete when it came to negotiating the fight. Nothing. And you clowns never called him out for it. Which just goes to show his fans and the 3G haters never really wanted the fight. They're content in being able to say in forums "GGG's ducking doe."

                  Show me something concrete where Ward made an effort to make the fight happen. If not, stop the nonsense.
                  You are not even making any relevant sense, son. I repeat, for two years, and on Youtube, the "boxer" himself - GGG, NEVER said he wanted to fight Ward. What do you not get about that?!!

                  In time you will learn about publicity stunts and gimmicks from promoters and trainers. They said they could take on any 154 or 168 fighter. How do you expect other boxers from other divisions to respond to that girl gossip crap that's not even coming out of GGG's own mouth.

                  K2 didn't even want to fight Lara even though he's ranked 2 at 154. Much to learn you do young son. Don't fall for the hype.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by From Russia View Post
                    Abraham is feather fisted at 168, Froch is not a big puncher, he went distance with Abraham, Kessler, Pascal, Dirrell etc... Not to mention that skillwise AA and Froch are bums compared to GGG.
                    Says the European sweating Kovalev and K2. Kovalev couldn't even beat Bhop at the age of 49, a legend that started at 160.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                      If they were the same size, I would say this is a pretty 50-50 fight with Ward having the slight edge. But with the size and weight advantage, I would say Ward a clear 65-35 favourite.

                      He's got the right style to beat GGG, he will smother and not give GGG the distance he needs to land his big shots and just outwork him on the inside. It's not a hard fight to call.
                      I think Ward clearly has the skill/style advantage especially on the inside, on the outside it is more even but Ward is quicker and longer. Golovkins biggest plus is that he sets up punches like almost no one else in boxing he is constantly thinking about the next punch, Wards biggest advantage over everyone else is that he never lets guys set up punches against him.

                      Also we know little about GGGs power above 160, and I don't think GGG punches that much harder than Froch, Kessler, Abraham at 168. He sets up angles better mind.

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