Be honest, do GGG fans really think he can beat Ward and why?

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  • therealpugilist
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    #41
    Originally posted by techliam
    Such a feeble answer. Make your mind up, is it a factor to consider, or is it not?

    'one weight class apart' doesn't really tell the whole story, does it?

    GGG is a below average MW, weighing the same as most 154lbers. He's just not able to cut weight as easily as the younger guys can. Ward is a pretty big 168lber, who's starting to fill into 175. You really think this scenario is explained well by just saying 'one weight class apart'? The weight gap is more than considerable

    Golovkin weighed 7lb less than Ward weighed in for the Smith fight, 30 days before the Lemiuex weigh-in.

    bro...who do you think wins and why is the title of the thread


    If you don't think GGG can beat him, then say so

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #42
      Originally posted by j0zef
      This misconception is widely spread around the forums. Golovkin gets all the credit for his power, but he gets no credit for his accuracy, defense and boxing skills.

      Make no mistake about it, he's a vastly experienced silver medalist. Golovkin can box better than any current MW. He just happens to be an excellent puncher as well.
      Where did I say he doesn't have skills beyond punching power? Are you suggesting Liston, Tyson & Foreman didn't have skills too? Cuz those were the guys I mentioned & I don't consider any of them no talent or low talent punchers & I don't believe I suggested GGG was no or low talent outside of his power either. That just happens to be the #1 thing that separates those guys from their eras divisional peers & its also one of the things that tend to get you a lot of attention & hype.

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      • xhiddenx87
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        #43
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        the only reason I even used 60/40 is because WARD has to get back to his proper form

        If he was active like he was pre 2013 I'd have it 80/20....He was number 2 p4p in my eyes back then and showed it by the way he beat elite 168s with relative ease

        Also GGG is a big question mark but I give him credit for how he dominates and took in account Wards inactivity

        If they were the same size??? they've been one weight class apart most of their careers so size isn't really a factor in my book though it should be considered
        ohh please, what now....if he fights Kova and loses, what? ohh right he was inactive...or Goosen's ghost made him lose? pfff

        recent Ward is the same Ward that 3 years ago. He himself said that, because he stayed in the Gym and never lose discipline according to Virgil Hunter, so don't come with that BS now, these are the best years for Ward, still prime.

        So in a GGG fight he would be the same Ward, and responding to youur question I can't see Gennady losing that easy, against anybody. But certainly I can make a case of how to beat him. I posted a video about the russian guy showing it.

        Ward for me is complicated, so I give him props, beacuse I can't find a way to beat him clearly also.

        For me is a 60/40 for Ward just because of his size. Footwork will be the key factor in that fight, and both have a beatiful footwork.

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          #44
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          People get all emotional when this subject comes up, especially GGG die hard fans

          I like both fighters, different styles but the best in their divisions


          He is a good fighter but his resume isn't amazing


          He is easy to hit on the elite level, has good skills and good jab


          If the fight was at 164-170 I just don't see GGG beating Ward


          Ward is taller, longer reach, better on the inside, has a better jab, is probably physically stronger. The only thing GGG has on him is power and a growing fan base


          IMO Ward clearly beat him because he can fight any where in the ring and he adapts mid fight better than anyone not named Mayweather.


          I explained my case. Whats you guys position
          Hey I have an idea, make a thread about a fight that is actually going to happen. This fight is not happening. A red bar making a ****** thread isn't exactly out of this world though.

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          • therealpugilist
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            #45
            Originally posted by xhiddenx87
            ohh please, what now....if he fights Kova and loses, what? ohh right he was inactive...or Goosen's ghost made him lose? pfff

            recent Ward is the same Ward that 3 years ago. He himself said that, because he stayed in the Gym and never lose discipline according to Virgil Hunter, so don't come with that BS now, these are the best years for Ward, still prime.

            So in a GGG fight he would be the same Ward, and responding to youur question I can't see Gennady losing that easy, against anybody. But certainly I can make a case of how to beat him. I posted a video about the russian guy showing it.

            Ward for me is complicated, so I give him props, beacuse I can't find a way to beat him clearly also.

            For me is a 60/40 for Ward just because of his size. Footwork will be the key factor in that fight, and both have a beatiful footwork.

            How about just answer the damn question and explain you position, why do you kids on this forum make so much out of another persons post or opinion?

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            • therealpugilist
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              #46
              Originally posted by krazyn8tive
              Hey I have an idea, make a thread about a fight that is actually going to happen. This fight is not happening. A red bar making a ****** thread isn't exactly out of this world though.
              hey I have a better one dumbazz if you don't like a thread don't post in it......HMMM I guess you are a GGG fan that thinks he has no chance against Ward


              You probably don't want it to happen but it can happen. Its different than people hoping for Mayweather vs GGG....GGG and Ward are closer in size....Mayweather started as a freaking junior lightweight


              What does a red bar or green bar mean???? Oh right, this person or that didn't agree with me.....OOOOO wow that really shows how much knowledge someone has about boxing...STFU trick

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              • krazyn8tive
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                #47
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                hey I have a better one dumbazz if you don't like a thread don't post in it......HMMM I guess you are a GGG fan that thinks he has no chance against Ward


                You probably don't want it to happen but it can happen. Its different than people hoping for Mayweather vs GGG....GGG and Ward are closer in size....Mayweather started as a freaking junior lightweight


                What does a red bar or green bar mean???? Oh right, this person or that didn't agree with me.....OOOOO wow that really shows how much knowledge someone has about boxing...STFU trick
                Your thread is ******. Your red bar shows how ****** you've been in the past. Your attemp to put me on the defensive by changing the subject and name calling speaks to your I.q.

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                • therealpugilist
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by krazyn8tive
                  Your thread is ******. Your red bar shows how ****** you've been in the past. Your attemp to put me on the defensive by changing the subject and name calling speaks to your I.q.
                  You posting in a thread that's ****** in your own opinion illustrates your level of intelligence


                  If I don't like a thread, I don't post in it......you don't like a thread you post in it several times, now that's someone with a 160 I.Q.

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #49
                    Yall *****s be hating on GGG....Yeah he too high on the P4P list...But the only reason people want him to skip money/unification fights with Canelo/Cotto and fight Ward is cause they know he will lose....Which isnt a bad thing since Ward is Inactivity aside #1/#2 P4P.

                    Yall dont wanna see him fight Ward cause its a big fight for boxing, just so yall can say I told u he was a "bum".

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                    • krazyn8tive
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      You posting in a thread that's ****** in your own opinion illustrates your level of intelligence


                      If I don't like a thread, I don't post in it......you don't like a thread you post in it several times, now that's someone with a 160 I.Q.
                      Someone needs to point out the obvious since so many around here miss it.

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