Comments Thread For: Hopkins: Canelo, Ward Would Exploit GGG’s Weaknesses

[aboutfkntime]

I call unifying belts onp HBO Ppv, selling out Msg, challenging Canelo for 3 belts + lineal and featuring in every p4p list taking over the sport. Glad you've learned to live with the pain

They are playing the casuals, just like Arum.

Stated today that they can make 154, yet refused a catchweight for Cotto.

Avoided all the movers/spoilers.

Ducked Ward like he had the plague.

Knowledgeable observers pick up on all of that stuff.

Come on man, all of that stuff is no coincidence.

Matchmaking is all about styles/levels/timing..... those 3 things.

The situation with Ward is obvious if you know the game, but what about Lara? I'm not saying that Golovkin cant beat Lara, just that they dont need any hiccups right now and they dont wanna risk Golovkin looking bad.

He is being very well-managed.

Saying that you will fight anyone, but then not, is not taking over the sport.

Hoya and Mayweather both took risks to make meaningful fights.

[aboutfkntime]

He'll fight them soon unless they duck him. Even if they forfeit, he still gets that belt. And he's already getting all that recognition, as much as it pains you.

Forfeit ?

They are JMW's and genuine A-listers, so they will insist upon a catchweight.

Golovkin will likely refuse knowing that they will be stripped.

You will somehow call that heroic.

We will ask why Golovkin chose to walk away from a HUGE payday, when he stated TODAY that he can make 154..... and you will never be able to provide a satisfactory explanation.

[HeroBando]

Because he can make 160 doesn't necessarily mean he's a natural 160 pounder and belongs at the weight.

If you make 160 with ease, and go up 10lbs fight night, that's a natural 160 by definition, as boxing is concerned. Unless you wanna argue he's a natural SWW, per the figures I quoted?

[mick1303]

Disagree with this analysis. Canelo's footwork is not great, but it's better than Lemieux's , and Canelo is also not smaller than GGG. Canelo has been known to usually rehydrate heavier than Golovkin.

The styles are different too, Canelo is much more accurate than lemieux and likes to counter punch. It's a different type of a fight.

I think he meant that Canelo is smaller than Lemieux (175 on fight night). IMO, it is splitting hairs. They all are similar in size.

[Showtime..]

If Ward beats Kovalev, Stevenson, GGG, & wins a belt at CW, would you consider him a Top 10 ATG?

[mick1303]

You're an idiot. This aint tennis buffoon and what a f@$#cked up analogy. Ward has been off before and has comeback with stellar performances as in the case with rodriguez. Floyd has done the same without any signs of slippage. That's what great fighters do.

The point is, a slightly diminished ward still beats golovkin because he is that much superior. And yes miranda, kessler and abraham are all bigger punchers than ggg they can all flatten you with one shot ggg does it with an accumulation of punches. Stop licking the sweaty residue off of glovkins wrinkled pale scrotums and rather face the facts.

Was it an accumulation or just one single punch to the head that dropped Rubio? Keep preaching. Don't you Ward fans understand that you are placing yourself into the corner, labeling GGG as garbage? How are you going to explain away when the time comes and Ward will be beaten?

[mick1303]

Because he can make 160 doesn't necessarily mean he's a natural 160 pounder and belongs at the weight.

Where have you been the last 20 years? This is true for almost every fighter since the weigh-in moved to the previous day.

[dray435]

Was it an accumulation or just one single punch to the head that dropped Rubio? Keep preaching. Don't you Ward fans understand that you are placing yourself into the corner, labeling GGG as garbage? How are you going to explain away when the time comes and Ward will be beaten?

If he beats ward which I doubt I will give him his props. Rubio was weight drained he admitted he was dead when he entered the ring. The fact that he couldn't make weight supports his claim. Rubio has been in with big punchers and never folded like that. The pavlik and david fights being good examples. Being weight drained completely depletes you and compromises your punch resistance. Cotto is a good example he regularly hit the floor at 140 but now since he has been campaigning at 147 and up he takes a punch much better and hasn't tasted the canvas in years. Rubio was dead at the weight, this was the issue, not necessarily golovkins vaunted punching power which is overrated. David even admitted he expected glovkin to be a harder puncher.

[aboutfkntime]

If Ward beats Kovalev, Stevenson, GGG, & wins a belt at CW, would you consider him a Top 10 ATG?

So.....

168 = dominated + beat the best middleweight
175 = dominated
200 = dominated

Did he fight everyone who was relevant at cruiser ?

If so, how dominant was he at cruiser ?

Did he retire undefeated ?

Not sure without knowing those answers, but that really is a huge call.

[!! Shawn]

Golovkin surprised me with his defensive skills - his footwork kept him away from Lemieux most of the night. That said, lemieux's footwork sucks.

Canelo's footwork is not great, as seen in the Mayweather fight and also the Lara fight. But it is a step up from that of Lemieux. But when GGG attacks, Canelo will be more at danger from Canelo's fast fists than he was against Lemieux. Canelo is a step up from Lemieux but I still see Golovkin winning.

Against the Ward from the Super Six I see Golovkin playing the role of Lemieux and Ward playing the role of GGG when it comes to boxing skills. Ward doesn't have the power GGG has though. That Ward would probably get a points win if he can avoid getting hit flush on the chin for 12 rounds - which in itself is a big ask.

The real question is are we going to get the 'super six' Ward or some diminished less mobile version? Ward would need all his boxing ability to get a points win off GGG - anything less than a 100% Ward would be in jeopardy.

Any version of GGG would be a nightmare for any version of Ward, just beast off his JAB.

He is the Mike McCallum of the Middleweight division right now. There might be people that will beat him, but they will barely squeek by decisions, all because of his jab.