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  • youbeight
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    #121
    Originally posted by kafkod
    I'm not saying what I want, I'm saying what I think is going to happen.
    so what do you want?

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    • crold1
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      #122
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      Golovkin Rejects Idea of Catch-Weight For Cotto, Canelo
      IBF/IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (34-0, 31 KOs) has no intention of agreeing to a catch-weight against the winner of Saul “Canelo” Alvar


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      Like I told you, why paint your self into a corner by making silly comments?
      Where are we when a unification fight at Middleweight would even have to come with a catch discussion

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      • youbeight
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        #123
        Originally posted by crold1
        Where are we when a unification fight at Middleweight would even have to come with a catch discussion
        its happened before, blame the predecessors. dlh did it to hopkins. i hate CW for world titles so if they propose it to GGG, shame on the canelo cotto winner, but the likely hood is that GGG will have to give into their demands sadly.

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #124
          Originally posted by crold1
          Where are we when a unification fight at Middleweight would even have to come with a catch discussion
          I agree Cliff.

          Personally, I think that they should be abolished, with no exceptions.

          With 17 divisions today catchweights are completely unnecessary.

          We can all see that they are being abused.

          But, if you live by the sword you die by the sword, and Cotto weighs 153.

          Cotto could fight Golovkin at 160, no question..... but if we are ever going to accept/allow catchweights, EVER..... then a guy who weighs 153 is justified when requesting one from a guy who weighs 160.

          I dont care about the title/lineage, and I doubt that Cotto does either.

          I just want a fair fight. We all know that Cotto is not a middleweight, he picked up some ABC belt by winning a money fight against Martinez.

          Also, Golovkin did not duck Ward, but he used that 164lb catchweight demand to avoid that fight and then justified it by stating that he was the "A-side". so.... ?

          I feel that based on the fact that Golovkin had no problem with demanding a catchweight from Ward, he should likely meet the 153lb, a-side, legend that is Miguel Cotto at least halfway.

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          • MDPopescu
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            #125
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            But he wasn't the guy who was apparently preparing for Golovkin.

            Ward was 172, and according to Loeffler Ward even considered the catchweight for Golovkin..... confirming that he can definitely make 168.

            Team Golovkin had no reason to avoid that fight.

            I agree that they had no real reason to take it either.
            Look, no joking now: Cotto (Ward's stablemate) would possibly be forced to face Golovkin next. For me it's quite bizarre that Ward wanted so badly to fight GGG in a time span starting with this fall and ending with the next summer. I suspect some RN strategy behind this.

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #126
              Kathy Duva is right on this one. The winner will have a solid resume of quality wins and can rightfully be called P4P #1.

              They will have earned the top spot due to their accomplishments in the ring and not based on "popularity contests."

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                #127
                I don't know about P4P#1 but it would definitely be a more appropriate fight than Ward-GGG, two LHW guys fighting. I expect Kovalev to stop Ward and I'm not sure where that puts him on the P4P list.

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                • kafkod
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  Golovkin Rejects Idea of Catch-Weight For Cotto, Canelo
                  IBF/IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (34-0, 31 KOs) has no intention of agreeing to a catch-weight against the winner of Saul “Canelo” Alvar


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                  Like I told you, why paint your self into a corner by making silly comments?
                  You are not making sense.

                  GGG isn't calling out anybody. The WBC have ordered the winner of Cotto/Canelo to defend the belt against him next, and he is saying he won't accept a catchweight when they do.

                  And your point is?

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by MDPopescu
                    Look, no joking now: Cotto (Ward's stablemate) would possibly be forced to face Golovkin next. For me it's quite bizarre that Ward wanted so badly to fight GGG in a time span starting with this fall and ending with the next summer. I suspect some RN strategy behind this.
                    Why is Ward/Golovkin such a bad idea ?

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      You are not making sense.

                      GGG isn't calling out anybody. The WBC have ordered the winner of Cotto/Canelo to defend the belt against him next, and he is saying he won't accept a catchweight when they do.

                      And your point is?
                      He has been calling both of them out for years

                      You will not be able to flip-flop on that post.

                      Cotto is obviously smaller, he weighed 153.

                      You should be prepared to stand by the ethics/morality of your post.

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