Great Britain has nine world champions

[LacedUp]

Actually I think Bradley made the fight harder than it needed to be but he still clearly deserved to get the nod over him, he was landing more frequently and overall the better work was from Bradley.

I think Chaves being a top 10 WW without any decent win says a lot about the integrity and strength of that division.
Its only going to get weaker now that Pacquiao is looking ready to call it quits.

What's better - proving yourself in tonight fights vs established fighters or beating up low-ranked opponents to get a spot in the top 10?

Chaves is a proven entity. We know his level.

[New England]

Frampton and Selby aren't English.

British, yes.

the rest of us don't really care about the lines you guys draw in the sand.


selby is god awful, as well.


frampton's not a bad little fighter, but that selby kid is nobody to write home about.

[D-MiZe]

Actually I think Bradley made the fight harder than it needed to be but he still clearly deserved to get the nod over him, he was landing more frequently and overall the better work was from Bradley.

I think Chaves being a top 10 WW without any decent win says a lot about the integrity and strength of that division.
Its only going to get weaker now that Pacquiao is looking ready to call it quits.

I'm not being pedantic but when you start throwing around rankings and such it confuses matters. Chaves might be top #12/#13 etc and it's always subjective. I think the easiest way to look at it is;

- Fought against two good contenders in Thurman and Rios and stood his ground, wasn't overwhelmed.

- Fought against the best Welter outside of Pacquiao and gave a good account of himself.

As I said, fights aren't fought on paper. I think I speak for most when I say that Chaves is a worthy contender, it's a good fight and it could've have been so much worse. Some people are never happy though.

[M Bison]

I'm not being pedantic but when you start throwing around rankings and such it confuses matters. Chaves might be top #12/#13 etc and it's always subjective. I think the easiest way to look at it is;

- Fought against two good contenders in Thurman and Rios and stood his ground, wasn't overwhelmed.

- Fought against the best Welter outside of Pacquiao and gave a good account of himself.

As I said, fights aren't fought on paper. I think I speak for most when I say that Chaves is a worthy contender, it's a good fight and it could've have been so much worse. Some people are never happy though.

Well it seems much worse when you know Hearns and Brook choose to fight Frankie Gavin over trying to get Timothy Bradley that and the fact they low balled with Rios that's the only reason that fight never happened.
They're being purposely cheap If it was Bradley instead of Frankie Gavin and that now they were trying to get Rios/Chaves then I'd say that is acceptable but that's not the case its been two questionable opponents in a row now a guy who has never won one of those big fights he's been in.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Don't forget the P4P ratings. Not one Brit is on anyones P4P, US has at least 4

Kell Brook is on the Ring's. Not that I would necessarily agree with that but he is there. America has Ward and Crawford.

Again, even if what you're saying is true, that maths doesn't add up for you to be boasting. You're actually behind.

[Weebler I]

Why are US posters going on about being the best in a weight class?

Are any American boxers the best in a weight class?

HW - no
CW - no
LH - no
SM - no (vacant, #1 Abraham)
MW - no
LM - no (vacant, #1 Alvarez)
WW - no (vacant, #1 Brook)
JW - no (vacant, #1 Postol)
LW - no
JL - no
FW - no
JF - no
BW - no
JB - no
FW - no
JF - no
SW -no

At most you could argue Ward, but he hasn't beat a top SMW since 2011 and he doesn't make SMW himself. It's far from conclusive he beats #2 DeGale either.

[Tom Cruise]

the rest of us don't really care about the lines you guys draw in the sand.
.

You ****in Texans dont know anything about geography

[D-MiZe]

Britain's next greatest flyweight;

[Pigeons]

MMA averages less than the cards I've just mentioned and the highest UFC PPV cards get drawfed by boxing's.

http://themmareport.com/category/tv-ratings/

The highest ranked Tennis tournament, US open got 850k viewers:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...o-year/458312/

the highest ranked golf tournament, PGA tour averaged 2.1million:

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J...r-viewers.aspx

All in all, I'm not sure you entirely know what you're talking about and even if they are bigger sports and the numbers don't really reflect that, then it's not like it's on another level when some fights are pulling in the same number of viewers as the PGA tour.

If you lived in this country you would understand. ESPN doesn't cover boxing at all. Tennis and Golf get massive coverage for at least the 4 majors. You don't believe it because it doesn't fit your agenda.

[DreamerUSA]

Why are US posters going on about being the best in a weight class?

Are any American boxers the best in a weight class?

HW - no
CW - no
LH - no
SM - no (vacant, #1 Abraham)
MW - no
LM - no (vacant, #1 Alvarez)
WW - no (vacant, #1 Brook)
JW - no (vacant, #1 Postol)
LW - no
JL - no
FW - no
JF - no
BW - no
JB - no
FW - no
JF - no
SW -no

At most you could argue Ward, but he hasn't beat a top SMW since 2011 and he doesn't make SMW himself. It's far from conclusive he beats #2 DeGale either.

I actually posted a comparison before Floyd retired and in like half the divisions, we(Americans) did'nt even have a guy ranked in the top ten lol. I think you can make a legitimate argument for Bradley and Crawford, but it is far from clear. Ward is really the only one I would give the nod to even with his inactivity. DeGale has a chance to beat him, but that is a tough ask.