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  • bigjavi973
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    #111
    Originally posted by kafkod
    I understand where you are coming from now. You thought it was wrong for people to bitch about Cotto asking for CW's, and that makes it right for you to bitch about GGG doing the same thing.

    So two wrongs do make a right, in your head?


    And, btw, GGG's team know that Ward is not coming down to 164 for him. If they do start negotiating to try and make the fight, 50/50 on money and weight will be used by them to try and get concessions on the purse split from Ward, in return for GGG agreeing to fight him at 168.
    Not actually. All I'm doing is asking questions to lil' g fans.



    Why use the catchweights in negotiations when he would fight froch & chavez jr at full 168 lbs?

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    • kafkod
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      #112
      Originally posted by mate_parlov
      finally someone with common sense!

      Btw, love your selfie....
      lmfao!!! ...

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      • kafkod
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        #113
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        Not actually. All I'm doing is asking questions to lil' g fans.



        Why use the catchweights in negotiations when he would fight froch & chavez jr at full 168 lbs?
        Because Froch and Chavez Jr had many fans back then. They were fighting for 6 zero purses and GGG was still fighting for $300k.

        You don't ask for catchweights when you the B side, chasing fights with A side "names" like Froch and Chavez.
        Last edited by kafkod; 10-08-2015, 01:59 PM.

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          #114
          Originally posted by bigjavi973
          Not actually. All I'm doing is asking questions to lil' g fans.



          Why use the catchweights in negotiations when he would fight froch & chavez jr at full 168 lbs?
          GGG has stated he will fight Froch at 168 in England because Froch brings huge sellout crowds (sold a 60k stadium within an hour). Froch was clearly A side to GGG, and getting a fight with Froch would have been great for GGG, even if he has jump a whole weight class. It's same reason he offered to fight Mayweather.

          GGG fighting Chavez at any weight is a misunderstanding. It stems from a 2012 proclamation by Loeffler that GGG will fight anyone 154-168. However in a May 2015 interview, GGG has stated that he has no interest in fighting Chavez Jr because he brings nothing to his table... basically putting him in same boat as Ward (good fighter, does nothing for my career.)
          Source - badlefthook.com/2015/3/19/8256671/gennady-golovkin-lists-his-top-five-most-desired-fights

          As for catchweights, why should GGG have to jump 8 pounds into someone else's weight class when that someone has NOTHING that he wants? The question should not be why can't GGG go up 8, it should be why can't Ward trim 4.
          164 is not a "catchweight" the same way Cotto uses them. 164 is the middle ground between fighters of 2 weight classes.

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            #115
            Originally posted by kafkod
            Because Froch and Chavez Jr had many fans back then. They were fighting for 6 figure purses and GGG was still fighting for $300k.

            You don't ask for catchweights when you the B side, chasing fights with A side "names" like Froch and Chavez.
            i dont think u understand how boxing works....ggg was going to get ****d in those negotiations...he wasnt making any more than 500k vs those guys...look at what other opponents did vs them..

            tom has brainwashed u to say this now bc u wont look at it in retrospect. u'll only look at it to benefit your argument...ggg is not a star and could get money off of those guys, but chavez jr proved that he wouldnt fight him unless got all the money, bc "then" he was not a star...so this excuse u all have been taught to say is bull crap..."only for big fights" is wat u all say...nothinga bout him only getting 500k while they take the rest is a big fight for him...
            he felt he could win vs a fading froch...and overrated chavez lets honest...
            he doest not feel he can beat ward..he'd get more in a ward fight than he would have in those fights

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              #116
              Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
              In other words : We have serious indicators that our excuses seem to really be wearing Wards azz out .
              enoy you r green bar while u have it...bc the truth like this is not welcomed around these emotional nut cases...

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                #117
                Originally posted by tiliheels
                i dont think u understand how boxing works....ggg was going to get ****d in those negotiations...he wasnt making any more than 500k vs those guys...look at what other opponents did vs them..

                tom has brainwashed u to say this now bc u wont look at it in retrospect. u'll only look at it to benefit your argument...ggg is not a star and could get money off of those guys, but chavez jr proved that he wouldnt fight him unless got all the money, bc "then" he was not a star...so this excuse u all have been taught to say is bull crap..."only for big fights" is wat u all say...nothinga bout him only getting 500k while they take the rest is a big fight for him...
                he felt he could win vs a fading froch...and overrated chavez lets honest...
                he doest not feel he can beat ward..he'd get more in a ward fight than he would have in those fights
                You think GGG would have earned more fighting Ward than he would have got for Froch in the UK?

                Are you high?

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                  Ward vs GGG is not a mega fight.
                  says the guy that i look at with a "WTF u just say" face

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    You think GGG would have earned more fighting Ward than he would have got for Froch in the UK?

                    Are you high?
                    if they made 6 million he was only going to get 750k or 1 million..surely..they are teh big dawg..he was not...today yes he would get more thatn 1 million to fight ward...
                    its not a matter of today and today only...dont u see floyd takin 30 million and giving the other 1 million? yes bc he is the big dawg and they are not...look at the pay of chavez jr opponents...

                    sergio martinez well know and p4p fighter only got 1.4 vs chavez...u think a guy that wasnt known as well would get more? and i'm sure ggg would get more than 1.4 for ward now

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      You think GGG would have earned more fighting Ward than he would have got for Froch in the UK?

                      Are you high?
                      froch took 85% vs groves each time..and at the time ggg was talkin of fighting froch he was not star he would get treated jus as bad....

                      today he could easily get more than wat he is getting for david to fight andre ward.

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