New Names Up For HOF Vote

[therealpugilist]

being involved in as many fights of the year as gatti and graziano were is an accomplishment worth remembering. mcguigan is remembered for his popularity and social significance. hernandez had a good career but is he really someone that you will tell your grandkids about?

Genaro Hernandez was a better fighter than Gatti and Graziano


Im a fan of winners, and I actually boxed so I don't give kudos for taking beatings


Being in a fight of the year is great but its also the caliber of fighters in the fight that brings the significance

I love exciting fights but Its not fair to fighters who accomplished more in the ring, meaning titles and defenses, who are not in....to let someone one in because of " social significance and popularity"....its basically like you're saying they got in because they were exciting to watch and because of their race.

Should Mickey Ward be in the hall of fame??? IMO not enough weight is put on accomplishment and too much on popularity and "social significance"

Here is a short list of guys who were in exciting fights, but didn't have enough "popularity" and " social significance" but accomplished more and were better than McGuigan and Gatti.......

Look at fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Cornelious Boza Edwards, doezens of Asian champions in the lower weights like Yuri, Mexican great Gilberto Roman, etc


Hernandez would beat Gatti and McGuigan if they wouldve fought...also Hernandez was lineal champion with several defenses and only lost to two hall of famers, ODLH and PBF


Honestly Ray Mancini getting in was BS in my book, he was a good fighter but very popular but guys in his era who were better and accomplished more wont get in like the guys I mentioned

[Pigeons]

He's already in the world boxing hall of fame.

I only count the IBHOF. He became eligible last year but didn't make it.

[Eff Pandas]

Anyone got a list of the top 10 or 20 guys with the best chance to get in next time?

I think Camacho gets in for sure doe.

[LacedUp]

One of the HOF's.

I think boxing would be better of sticking to the one.

Does anyone really count the others? I mean, sure the party looks nice and all, but I wouldn't consider myself a hall of famer if I was in the Nevada HOF or something like that.

[crold1]

One of the HOF's.

It's like being in Ring's old Hall. It's cool but it's not a thing anymore. For better or worse, the IBHOF is it

[crold1]

Dariusz M is on the list again, and deserves to get in.

But once again, he'll be overlooked.

Dariusz has a solid case and the numbers but he's not going to make my cut of five this year.

[crold1]

Genaro Hernandez was a better fighter than Gatti and Graziano


Im a fan of winners, and I actually boxed so I don't give kudos for taking beatings


Being in a fight of the year is great but its also the caliber of fighters in the fight that brings the significance

I love exciting fights but Its not fair to fighters who accomplished more in the ring, meaning titles and defenses, who are not in....to let someone one in because of " social significance and popularity"....its basically like you're saying they got in because they were exciting to watch and because of their race.

Should Mickey Ward be in the hall of fame??? IMO not enough weight is put on accomplishment and too much on popularity and "social significance"

Here is a short list of guys who were in exciting fights, but didn't have enough "popularity" and " social significance" but accomplished more and were better than McGuigan and Gatti.......

Look at fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Cornelious Boza Edwards, doezens of Asian champions in the lower weights like Yuri, Mexican great Gilberto Roman, etc


Hernandez would beat Gatti and McGuigan if they wouldve fought...also Hernandez was lineal champion with several defenses and only lost to two hall of famers, ODLH and PBF


Honestly Ray Mancini getting in was BS in my book, he was a good fighter but very popular but guys in his era who were better and accomplished more wont get in like the guys I mentioned

I agree he was better than Gatti as an example, but that shouldn't be the standard Literally almost every fighter on the ballot was 'better' than Gatti. That vote's gone. I didn't vote for him and do my best to pick the five best (or previously ten) on the ballot. That, IMO, should be the standard. And if you don't think there are five worthy of the Hall, don't vote for that many.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

This year's Modern ballot has three new names for consideration:

Hector Camacho
Yuri Arbachakov
Sot Chitalada

Camacho is a lock...

Arbachakov is borderline and probably won't get in on first try

I don't know enough about chitalada to have an informed opinion

[crold1]

Camacho is a lock...

Arbachakov is borderline and probably won't get in on first try

I don't know enough about chitalada to have an informed opinion

I can't vote for Arbachakov with Laciar and Zapata still on the ballot. I'd take him over Chitalada though you can make a case Chitalada had a higher level of foe. Heavily leaning to Benn and Eubank. Think they both belong, but when I check one I'm checking the other.

Still debating on Macho. Real short peak window IMO and after Rosario he was so-so and often stunk the joint out. I agree he's a lock so whether I do or don't, unlikely to matter.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I can't vote for Arbachakov with Laciar and Zapata still on the ballot. I'd take him over Chitalada though you can make a case Chitalada had a higher level of foe. Heavily leaning to Benn and Eubank. Think they both belong, but when I check one I'm checking the other.

Yeah, benn, eubank and Camacho would all get my vote