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  • Philantro
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    #101
    Originally posted by Philantro
    I agree that Hector Camacho Sr is a HOFer. However, I don't recognize the other two names.

    My vote 2016, for the other two would probably go to:

    Ike Quartey, who for example won over Oscar De La Hoya on my card. He has unfairly been overlooked in the shadow of Pernell Whitaker, Felix Trinidad, and Oscar De La Hoya. Ike Quartey took on all the best welterweights except Pernell Whitaker and Felix Trinidad, who had their own belts. Ike Quartey wasn't afraid to fight anyone, proven by him fighting so many top 5 and top 10 fighters, at welterweight. He was, for example, defending his belt against Jose Luis Lopez in 1997, when Felix Trinidad was defending his belt against bums.

    Donald Curry fought the best and won, becoming undisputed welterweight champion in the process. He was also seen as the top p4p of his time, together with Marvin Hagler, Mike Tyson and Tommy Hearns. In my opinion he is a HOFer.


    Other fighters who should be considered are, for example:
    Michael Nunn
    Antonio Esparragoza
    Meldrick Taylor
    Julian Jackson, and
    Israel Vazquez


    Ike Quartey had the WBA welterweight belt from 1994 to 1998, when he was stripped. He fought:
    Crisanto Espana, ranked no3, who knocked out Meldrick Taylor at his peak
    Vince Phillips, ranked no8, who knocked out Kostya Tszyu at his peak
    Oba Carr, ranked no4, at Oba Carr's peak
    Jose Luis Lopez, ranked no4, decision later changed to draw

    During Quartey's reign as WBA's welterweight champion; Pernell Whitaker, Felix Trinidad, and Oscar De La Hoya were seen as p4p the best in the world, all fighting at welterweight.


    In his fight with Lopez in 1997, Quartey had Malaria. Quartey did not fight in 1998 and was subsequently stripped of his WBA Welterweight Title. According to promoter Dino Duva, "Pernell Whitaker, Felix Trinidad, and Oscar De La Hoya all pulled out of fights against him" and Quartey reportedly battled malaria amid disputes with his then-European based promoters. However, Quartey fought De La Hoya in 1999, but lost a split decision. Unofficial HBO (Harold Lederman) scorecard was114-113 for Quartey.


    Pernell Whitaker, Felix Trinidad, and Oscar De La Hoya are seen by many as among the best welterweights ever. However, Ike Quartey might have been better than all of them.




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    • crold1
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      #102
      Updated for 2015: http://www.bwaa.us/2015/10/07/2015-b...-of-fame-bios/

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        #103
        Originally posted by Pigeons
        The World Boxing Hall of Fame doesn't have a museum or any kind of physical location and hasn't inducted a class in years. But in all honesty, it's just not the Hall of Fame that others refer to as the main "Hall of Fame". That is the IBHOF and it's the one that fighters aspire to join.

        Somebody else said it best earlier in the thread. It's a Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Fame.
        Yes it does have a Museum and a physical location.

        It's not "A" Hall of fame it's one and THE Hall of Fame and that was always the case.

        Do you consider Estebam DeJesus a HOF'er? I'm pretty sure 99% of people do. He's not in the IBHOF.

        If the IBHOF stop inducting fighters what then? Would you forget they ever did?

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        • Bundana
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          #104
          Whether the WBHOF inducties should be seen as "real" HOFers (alongside those of IBHOF), or they shouldn't be counted as such... well, that's a thread that belongs in the History section, IMO.

          It's an interesting question, that deserves better than a thread that disappears from the first page within a couple of hours!

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          • Pigeons
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            #105
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Yes it does have a Museum and a physical location.

            It's not "A" Hall of fame it's one and THE Hall of Fame and that was always the case.

            Do you consider Estebam DeJesus a HOF'er? I'm pretty sure 99% of people do. He's not in the IBHOF.

            If the IBHOF stop inducting fighters what then? Would you forget they ever did?
            What is the physical address of the WBHOF?

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #106
              Originally posted by Pigeons
              What is the physical address of the WBHOF?
              Los Angeles Atheltic Club Headquarters.

              431 W 7th Street, Los Angeles, CA 900 14, United States.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Bundana
                Whether the WBHOF inducties should be seen as "real" HOFers (alongside those of IBHOF), or they shouldn't be counted as such... well, that's a thread that belongs in the History section, IMO.

                It's an interesting question, that deserves better than a thread that disappears from the first page within a couple of hours!
                It was always the way.

                WBHOF'ers were always considered HOF'ers.

                It's only the last few years that's they've stopped inducting that people seem to want to forget they ever existed.

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                • Bundana
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  It was always the way.

                  WBHOF'ers were always considered HOF'ers.

                  It's only the last few years that's they've stopped inducting that people seem to want to forget they ever existed.
                  WBHOF HOFers are of course still WBHOF HOFers - even though that organization went out of business several years ago.

                  However, whenever a question like Who fought the most HOFers? or Who beat the most HOFers? comes up (on this or other sites), only the IBHOF HOFers are counted. You can argue, that this isn't fair - but it's simply how it is.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Bundana
                    WBHOF HOFers are of course still WBHOF HOFers - even though that organization went out of business several years ago.

                    However, whenever a question like Who fought the most HOFers? or Who beat the most HOFers? comes up (on this or other sites), only the IBHOF HOFers are counted. You can argue, that this isn't fair - but it's simply how it is.
                    That's not how it is. Or atleast it's not how it was.

                    Esteban DeJesus is a "HOF'er" that Roberto Duran beat right? Why? Because he's not in the IBHOF.

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                    • Bundana
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      That's not how it is. Or atleast it's not how it was.

                      Esteban DeJesus is a "HOF'er" that Roberto Duran beat right? Why? Because he's not in the IBHOF.
                      Show me a thread where DeJesus is counted as one of Duran's HOF-victims.

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