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  • #81
    Originally posted by Dinamita 03 View Post
    Different level of opposition, the things he's been able to do against his past opponents aren't all going to work. It's just speculation though at this point.

    My point was that Cotto no longer comes straight in and backs straight out as he did with past opponents (see Zab Judah) that landed major uppercuts. Even with the knee problems, Martinez was still faster, moved better, and was bigger then Canelo, Cotto had no problem positioning himself against Martinez. I don't think Cotto will struggle for position against Canelo, Canelo is very flat footed and doesn't turn very much. We already know that Cotto can adjust, and fight through adversity, we haven't seen Canelo adjust. And adversity wise, he seemingly quit against Mayweather, he chased and followed Lara all night (I scored fight for Canelo), and he avoided being knocked out by a fighter two divisions lower. My concern for Canelo in this fight is that he fails to adjust. Mayweather has said of Cotto, their fight was like a chess match. If Mayweather had to make multiple adjustments to defeat Cotto, I think Canelo will have to do the same.

    Margaritto walked down Cotto to a late corner stoppage, but Margaritto walked through 8 rounds of hell fire, being out classed and out boxed to do it (a feat he could not replicate). Manny overwhelmed an under prepared Cotto with speed and movement, but took a lot of risks, and big shots to do it, requiring surgery in his ear after. Trout defeated Cotto (I had Cotto loosing a closer decision) but Trout didn't want to be anywhere near Cotto, he kept Cotto at the end of his punches damn near the entire fight. Canelo doesn't share any of these traits, I don't think Canelo will knock Cotto out, and Canelo is not the better boxer, so what he must do is come forward and get off first, not just sit back and wait for counter punch opportunities. Canelo has to use his size to move Cotto backward, he will have to cut off the ring and try to force Cotto to fight off the ropes like Margaritto did toward the end of the first fight. If and when Cotto adjusts, Canelo will have to do the same, plan A will not work unless it's a one shot knock out. If Canelo stays true to form and just stands or plods around looking for combo and or counter opportunities, Cotto is going to eat him up.

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    • #82
      Canelo is better at being bigger, younger and stronger.....

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      • #83
        Originally posted by ox805er View Post
        he got stopped by margacheato, real hands of stone... and paquiao 1000x's better than Jose Cotto.. remember that little LW that almost KO'D canelita?

        please dude.. you're reaching.. Corley is better than anyone not named mayweather that canelo has faced..


        canelo was 19 years old


        it illustrates the cluelessness of the cotto fanbase that they keep bringing that fight up.


        hope and pray that canelo is the same fighter he was when he was a boy.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by jorgepichardojr View Post
          It should but cano is not knocking out cotto. Say what you will about cottos chin. Lest not forget that Cotto his harder than any opponent on canelos dossier.
          Canelo will find cotto. But cotto has never been lighted out. Canelo won't find him enough to stop him. Is it possible that CAnelo can get a one hitter quitter? Yes. Is it likely? No. Case in point floyd fight.


          cotto does not hit harder than angulo or kirkland. just shut the f#ck up with that nonsense.


          give the ricans a shovel and watch them dig

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Puya View Post
            Most boxers get wobble when they are hit with good punches that they don't see coming. Very basic stuff. The Cotto that fought Corley changed from a boxer Puncher to only a Puncher. Once getting caught he resort to boxing and did a n excellent job at it. Same for the Ricardo Torres fight. He learned his lesson and showed in the Quintana, Judah, Mosley and so on.

            Margarito Cheater
            Paquiao - proved to be better, but we all know Cotto was not at his best (No Trainer only a yes crew)
            Mayweather - proved to be better

            Trout - You all keep denying it but that fight was very closed. Trout beat Cotto but in no way he was clearly dominated.

            MArtinez - Most were picking Cotto to loose. After the fight 3/4 of posters here dig in what ever info they can find to diminish his win. In no way any version of Martinez beats the version of Cotto that got on that ring that day. My honest opinion

            I know that your are very savy with words but try to keep facts intact.



            this is why nobody takes you guys seriously.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              this is why nobody takes you guys seriously.
              it's to laugh with these guys man. sooooo delusional lol

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              • #87
                Originally posted by New England View Post
                this is why nobody takes you guys seriously.
                That **** is ridiculous, all jokes and trolling aside.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Agent Mulder View Post
                  it's to laugh with these guys man. sooooo delusional lol

                  "after the martinez fight, people dug for whatever info they could to explain the loss."


                  such unrelated info as martinez inability to train and spar for the fight

                  unrelated info like martinez knees being that of a 60 year old man.


                  unrelated. cotto won that fight because he was the better man with more evenly trimmed eyebrows and ****sexual looking features and mannerisms.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Bardock View Post
                    That **** is ridiculous, all jokes and trolling aside.
                    the lack of responses from our freshly tweezed Caribbean brothers leads me to believe that they've realized what jackasses they;ve been in the last year.

                    cotto's regard for the MW championship of the world has been embarassing. catchweights, daniele geale coming off of a knockout loss to the legit contender to the belt, and now a guy who has never fought a genuine middleweight.


                    canelo needs to beat cotto. then we can all move on.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by New England View Post
                      the lack of responses from our freshly tweezed Caribbean brothers leads me to believe that they've realized what jackasses they;ve been in the last year.

                      cotto's regard for the MW championship of the world has been embarassing. catchweights, daniele geale coming off of a knockout loss to the legit contender to the belt, and now a guy who has never fought a genuine middleweight.


                      canelo needs to beat cotto. then we can all move on.
                      I agree. Even that old fck peasantcrusha is back and haven't heard a peep from him. I can't wait til we can all move on

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