Comments Thread For: Roach: Canelo Does Nothing Better Than Cotto - Nothing!

[tiliheels]

Actually he has a much better defense, and rather than coming in with a "set game-plan," Canelo can "read and react," and adapt and adjust on the fly.

He has a much higher understanding, and ring IQ.

While he may not stand out in any other aspect, aside from defense/head movement/upper body movement, he is younger, and much stronger than Cotto.

I expect him to stop Cotto around the 8th.

ring iq? he reacts well? but he doesnt cut the ring off!..he's as basic of a counter puncher trying to emulate marquez but his punches are too and he cant move his feet when he throws them to have better angles...canelo is no dummy neither is cotto but cotto made it to 35 somehow staying near the top of the game...be honest with yourself...cotto if he fights the best will have 10 losses at 30...he has 2 possible 3 or4 already....trout, lara, floyd, and miguel.....i think if kirkland had any lick of a chin or defense kirkland would be him 3 out of 5 times

[PeasantCrusha]

Wrong. Canelo is much better than Cotto at deadlines.

[Puya]

damage control


floyd's chin isn't spectacular, but it's not afwul. cotto is chinny. he spent much of the rest of the round hurt after corley hit him. he's hurt quite often for a world class fighter.



again, most of you didn't wtach boxing in '05. most of you were probably in grade school





it was also floyd's first fight at 140. cotto at 140 probbly had 10-15 lbs on chop chop corley. pretty sure they have fight night weights from that fight.

Most boxers get wobble when they are hit with good punches that they don't see coming. Very basic stuff. The Cotto that fought Corley changed from a boxer Puncher to only a Puncher. Once getting caught he resort to boxing and did a n excellent job at it. Same for the Ricardo Torres fight. He learned his lesson and showed in the Quintana, Judah, Mosley and so on.

Margarito Cheater
Paquiao - proved to be better, but we all know Cotto was not at his best (No Trainer only a yes crew)
Mayweather - proved to be better

Trout - You all keep denying it but that fight was very closed. Trout beat Cotto but in no way he was clearly dominated.

MArtinez - Most were picking Cotto to loose. After the fight 3/4 of posters here dig in what ever info they can find to diminish his win. In no way any version of Martinez beats the version of Cotto that got on that ring that day. My honest opinion

I know that your are very savy with words but try to keep facts intact.

[hitking]

I think Canelo will do a number on Cotto but people will say Cotto got old.

Cotto got old???? Cotto was completely washed up and shot when Floyd moved up and beat him 3yrs ago.

[Dominicano]

Cotto is my favorite active fighter right now. Love everything about his style. I give him an advantage in skill over Canelo. Canelo is the bigger fighter but the only way I see him winning is by stoppage. This is the fight I have been waiting for.

[Dindu_Nuffin]

ring iq? he reacts well? but he doesnt cut the ring off!..he's as basic of a counter puncher trying to emulate marquez but his punches are too and he cant move his feet when he throws them to have better angles...canelo is no dummy neither is cotto but cotto made it to 35 somehow staying near the top of the game...be honest with yourself...cotto if he fights the best will have 10 losses at 30...he has 2 possible 3 or4 already....trout, lara, floyd, and miguel.....i think if kirkland had any lick of a chin or defense kirkland would be him 3 out of 5 times

Cotto has failed at the very top of world level. He's even been 50/50 at the mid/bottom level of what I would consider "world class," with a loss to Trout, and what I, along with most, saw as a loss against Clottey! I thought he beat Mosley, but by the closest of margins (I believe a compelling argument can be made he lost).

At 154 and above, Cotto is also at a significant size disadvantage (very visible against Trout).

Cotto is a bit stiffer IMO, and Canelo looks more fluid in catching punches with gloves, shoulders, upper body movement, etc.

I don't see anything Canelo does that attempts to emulate Marquez. Canelo has much better defense than Marquez, but isn't as refined with punching technique, nor as precise of a counter-puncher.

Cotto just doesn't do anything better than Canelo (I'll flip the script on what Roach said), and add that to the fact Canelo is the naturally bigger, stronger, younger, and fresher.

[Don Pichardo]

Canelo takes a better punch. Cotto has been rocked on numerous occasions.

That is purely a function of opposition rather than ability to take a punch.

[deathofaclown]

Trout - You all keep denying it but that fight was very closed. Trout beat Cotto but in no way he was clearly dominated.

No, that fight was not close at all. Trout made Cotto look like an average plodder that night. Maybe it was just a bad night or a bad style for Cotto but it really wasn't close at all. Trout v Canelo was pretty close though.

Anyway Cotto's loss to Trout is strange. It's like boxings dirty secret that nobody talks about much. A bit like the time i met my cousin in a club and ended up ****ing her. It just never gets mentioned again.

[Don Pichardo]

cotto's little fanboys are making a semi resurgence after it came out that martinez was a complete cripple by his own admission, and they went into hiding


another knockout loss will probably end cotto's career.

It should but cano is not knocking out cotto. Say what you will about cottos chin. Lest not forget that Cotto his harder than any opponent on canelos dossier.
Canelo will find cotto. But cotto has never been lighted out. Canelo won't find him enough to stop him. Is it possible that CAnelo can get a one hitter quitter? Yes. Is it likely? No. Case in point floyd fight.

[Don Pichardo]

- As far as boxing ability, yes he does nothing better than Cotto, But he makes up for it with youth/strenght and speed + size.

Does he? Rewatch the floyd fight. Youth speed and strenght were nullified with relative ease. I concede it was floyd he was facing but point still stands.