Official: PBC on NBC Wilder vs Duhaupas RBR Thread

[joe strong]

Because those rankings are very credible...

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Charr was #5 in WBC or in the top 10 when he lost to duhaupas. The Frenchman also took that fight on 4 weeks notice following his tough fight with teper.

[joe strong]

Drop the belt and start fighting 4 or 5 times a year against top 15/25 contenders. There's room to improve.

duhaupas is in the top 25. Boxingrec is not a legit ranking & NO HW in the world fights that many times in one year against top 15-25 guys. although duhaupas did fight 3 top 20 guys in 5.5 months. Most top 10 guys only fight top guys twice a year.

[The Gambler1981]

What I don't get about Wilder is that there are a ton of people who have held in low regard for his whole career, yet they seem to hold him to a very high standard.

If you thought the dude was garbage at the beginning which was pretty much everyone, then he has clearly exceeded those expectation and deserves a bit of praise for actually making something of his career. He hasn't been getting that much hype until recently (the last year really).

I can understand not being huge on Wilder or not thinking he is that great or will get beat by Wlad or Povetkin. just people take it so far and when it comes to Wilder they throw praise around like it was a manhole cover.

[BoxngLove]

At least he has proved to be better than Seth Mitchell and Cris Arreola as far as American Heavyweight Prospects go. Great fight to watch for the average viewer and up. I hope he brushes up on his Defence. there were more than a few scary shots he took in that fight. I'd like to see him take this somewhere. He's got undeniable talent.. for 6'7" I can't remember the last guy that big who could fight on the inside maybe like a Rid**** Bowe...

[Drunken Cat]

What I don't get about Wilder is that there are a ton of people who have held in low regard for his whole career, yet they seem to hold him to a very high standard.

If you thought the dude was garbage at the beginning which was pretty much everyone, then he has clearly exceeded those expectation and deserves a bit of praise for actually making something of his career. He hasn't been getting that much hype until recently (the last year really).

I can understand not being huge on Wilder or not thinking he is that great or will get beat by Wlad or Povetkin. just people take it so far and when it comes to Wilder they throw praise around like it was a manhole cover.

Speaking personally at least it went quite the other way. I followed his career from the Olympics and at first counted myself as a fan. As time went on he was clearly a fraud.

[Machinist_X]

Totally agree.
I think he is a better than i thought he was. Lots of positives from that fight. And to finish so strongly in the 11th round was very impressive.

Wilder vs Wlad would be a the first real exciting HW fight in a very very long time.
Anything could happen in that fight.

better than what you thought he was? wow you must of aimed pretty low then hahaha, he fought like **** are you serious???

yea kangaroo punching (wtf) against a way lesser opponent, jumping all over him while hes holding his guard up thinking wtf then getting the ref stop the fight for you, yea... very impressive, the fight shouldnt of been stopped in my opinion, wilders loony excited movement give the impression his opponent was in serious trouble.

such sloppy technique, footwork (he gets walked down easy, leans on ropes too much), the guy is a awful boxer, he relies on his power too much, a serious boxer would expose him.

fury, povetkin, wlad would beat him in my opinion, i even think jennings or eddie chambers would give wilder a extremely hard fight and possibly win.

[Drunken Cat]

better than what you thought he was? wow you must of aimed pretty low then hahaha, he fought like **** are you serious???

yea kangaroo punching (wtf) against a way lesser opponent, jumping all over him while hes holding his guard up thinking wtf then getting the ref stop the fight for you, yea... very impressive, the fight shouldnt of been stopped in my opinion, wilders loony excited movement give the impression his opponent was in serious trouble.

such sloppy technique, footwork (he gets walked down easy, leans on ropes too much), the guy is a awful boxer, he relies on his power too much, a serious boxer would expose him.

fury, povetkin, wlad would beat him in my opinion, i even think jennings or eddie chambers would give wilder a extremely hard fight and possibly win.

I hated his showboating antics.

I did think the stoppage was proper though.

The guy was spent and was taking a major beating.

[fourtheboys96]

At least he has proved to be better than Seth Mitchell and Cris Arreola as far as American Heavyweight Prospects go. Great fight to watch for the average viewer and up. I hope he brushes up on his Defence. there were more than a few scary shots he took in that fight. I'd like to see him take this somewhere. He's got undeniable talent.. for 6'7" I can't remember the last guy that big who could fight on the inside maybe like a Rid**** Bowe...

What talent? His physical advantages are the ones carrying him right now against not-so-top-level opponents. Talent and skills are not his strengths.

[The Gambler1981]

Speaking personally at least it went quite the other way. I followed his career from the Olympics and at first counted myself as a fan. As time went on he was clearly a fraud.

I just don't know what you would really thought he was going to become. Dude was horrendous as a pro fighter at the beginning, so much so that it was always going to be 5 years at least before he would start looking like a pro fighter. He does look a like a pro now, he has flaws still but he fights to his strengths. He was never going to be this master boxer that had all the facets to his game, he was always going to be a guy that would have to maximize his strengths and role with that until he crapped out.

Chances were at the beginning he wouldn't amount to anything at all and wouldn't even get to a guy like Stiverne especially since popular opinion is that a stiff breeze would knock him out.

I still get not thinking he will be the man, but I don't understand your road at all.

[Barcham]

Did anyone see Sulaiman in the ring after the Wilder fight? I do not remember seeing him. Sulaiman is in the ring after EVERY WBC title fight and if he did not show for this one, that does not look good for the relationship between PBC and WBC.